I ---replied message--- from: Kristopher Micinski <[email protected]> date: 2013-05-28 07:13:36.0 to: Android Developers <[email protected]>
On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 3:04 PM, rh <[email protected]> wrote: > On Sun, 26 May 2013 21:51:37 -0400 > Kristopher Micinski <[email protected]> wrote: > >> (However, do I agree with you that it would be nice to see the >> telephony firmware that's present in the modem? Sure, I do! Does >> this have anything to do with Android proper? Not really. I agree >> that if you want a completely open telephony platform it would be >> great to have open telephony firmware. If you are interested in this, >> perhaps this would be a good link: >> >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_open-source_mobile_phones >> >> Still, not something to trash Android for, it's really feasible to say >> that we can run open telephony firmware at this time. Or maybe it is >> and I'm just being naïve about the politics of handset manufacturing >> and distribution.) > > Did you mean "not feasible"? Or you meant "maybe it isn't"? > I meant to say not feasible, apologies. The point is that the telephony market is mostly dominated by huge conglomerates (at least in the states, where I'm from). This isn't really a point I want to argue about (I'm all for open source firmware, but just being realistic as to the current market situation..), but if you want to get Android in the hands of a bunch of people via phones they probably aren't going to let you run your own open source firmware at the current time. > The politics is driven by $$, they have to maintain control over > metering out bandwidth. But their game is over. There's a phone > service (can't recall the name, it's an MVNO) that will place > calls via wifi if it's available and only use cell when there's no wifi. > This can save subscribers lots of money as they bypass the need > for cell access. Sure, tons of services offer this (even Skype, which I believe was the first to offer this). At least my experience in the states is that broadband internet access still isn't widely available. Someday this may well be where the market goes (microtransactions with lowest bidder costs for cell calls, etc...) but that's just not where it's at now. > I guess I'm venting on android but I take your point and I understand. > I think I used the wrong jargon as well. > I was beginning to think that the android community was suffering > from the plague of self-censorship. > Thanks for taking the time to reply. AOSP is a pretty good open source platform, but not everything is feasible to open source from a business perspective (patents, closed code, etc...). It would be nice to move in the direction of more open, but that takes time (developers, hardware hackers, etc..) and money. Kris -- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Android Developers" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Android Developers" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Android Developers" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Android Developers" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.

