French or not french i had it in my hands aswell and it was working, and our vodafone related network had 5-6 "trial" devices with the same configuration.
2009/3/25 Stoyan Damov <stoyan.da...@gmail.com>: > > OK, I don't understand French, but someone is lying and it's not us, > developers. > > Android engineers say there's no date for cupcake, 1.5 SDK, etc., yet > there is this video of what appears to NOT be an Android 1.1 phone, > AND Vodaphone claims it will start selling them this April. > > WTF??? > > > On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 1:08 AM, roland <roland...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Here is a video of HTC Magic (French version) >> >> http://www.mobinaute.com/265180-videonaute-htc-magic-android-google.html >> >> On 24 mar, 19:46, "Al Sutton" <a...@funkyandroid.com> wrote: >>> The problem is that 1.1 was the most recent and the concern is that as the >>> latest release has a "device then SDK" order this may be seen as an >>> acceptable way to do things in the future. >>> >>> As for announcements of phones with cupcake. Vodafone have been saying since >>> February that they'll ship the HTC Magic in April >>> (http://www.vodafone.com/start/media_relations/news/group_press_releas... >>> /vodafone_and_htc_unveil.html ) and HTC show the Magic as having CupCake >>> features such as video recording >>> (http://www.htc.com/www/product/magic/overview.html) >>> >>> Al. >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: android-developers@googlegroups.com >>> >>> [mailto:android-develop...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Romain Guy >>> Sent: 24 March 2009 17:49 >>> To: android-developers@googlegroups.com >>> Subject: [android-developers] Re: Cupcake coming in April? Where is the SDK? >>> >>> All the SDKs released before 1.0 were no accident you know. >>> >>> So far, only the 1.1 SDK was released after the firmware (and not long after >>> at that.) I don't understand the point of this discussion. We know that the >>> SDK should be released before the bits are placed on actual devices and you >>> know that as well. Since there's been no announcement of Cupcake >>> availability on actual handsets, why all this fuss? >>> >>> On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 10:05 AM, Al Sutton <a...@funkyandroid.com> wrote: >>> > Dave, >>> >>> > I understand the effort involved, but the choice for any SDK is >>> > really; >>> >>> > a) Release the SDK before the devices and let developers test and >>> > prepare their apps. >>> >>> > b) Allow users to start buying a device which may not properly run the >>> > applications available from Market. >>> >>> > This is a no-brainer and in order to not appear like a piece of >>> > half-thought out technology the answer has to be a. >>> >>> > Apple understand this. Microsoft understand this. Symbian understand this. >>> > RIM understand this. This is why they all have developer programmes >>> > which give previews of upcoming OS releases and features. To ignore >>> > this fact is like signing a death warrant on the general publics >>> perception of Android. >>> >>> > I know that you're going to make every effort to make sure it does >>> > happen, but from a users point of view being told "well we did try" >>> > just doesn't cut the mustard. Being told they may encounter problems >>> > using applications from Googles market running on a Google branded >>> > phone downloaded directly on the 'phone is just going to look really >>> > poor. After all who wouldn't be mad if they bought a Ford car which >>> > turned up with an Ford accessories catalogue, bought some stuff from >>> > the accessories catalogue, waited for it to arrive, tried to fit it, >>> > find out it doesn't work, 'phone up Ford, only to be told "Oh yeah, we >>> > left it in the catalogue, but the accessory manufacturer had no way of >>> > testing if it worked because we couldn't do that for them" (although >>> > given Google Support Desk the user will probably just get told "It's an >>> app problem, it's the developers fault"). >>> >>> > This is one of the few occasions where I think a marketing persons >>> > view could be of use. >>> >>> > Al. >>> >>> > ________________________________ >>> > From: android-developers@googlegroups.com >>> > [mailto:android-develop...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of David Turner >>> > Sent: 24 March 2009 16:01 >>> > To: android-developers@googlegroups.com >>> > Subject: [android-developers] Re: Cupcake coming in April? Where is the >>> SDK? >>> >>> > Hmm.. Despite the fact that this is what we want, we cannot make a >>> > guarantee that the Cupcake SDK will be officially released strictly >>> > before the platform is available on retail phones. >>> >>> > Properly testing and packaging a SDK takes a lot of time, we may >>> > encounter blocker bugs that have nothing to do with the software on the >>> phone (e.g. >>> > emulator crashes on platform X, ADB doesn't see emulator/devices on >>> > platform Y, etc..). While we test the SDK frequently during >>> > development, doing the necessary job to ensure that it's not going to >>> > break on the machines of all people who download it from the official >>> > repository takes some time. And then, the web site needs to be >>> > updated, especially the documentation needs to reflect the new features / >>> fixes / etc... >>> >>> > But apart from that, I don't see a reason why this SDK would lag >>> > behind, and as I said, we want it to be released ASAP. >>> >>> > On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 4:47 PM, Al Sutton <a...@funkyandroid.com> wrote: >>> >>> >> JBQ, >>> >>> >> Can you pass up the chain that the 'phrase >>> >>> >> "...you can be sure that you'll have an official SDK for a >>> >> cupcake-originated release as soon as possible." >>> >>> >> should be planned to be a point in time (hopefully a couple of weeks) >>> >> before a carrier releases a device with it on. >>> >>> >> I'm sure you're aware there's no bigger recipe for pain than when the >>> >> first people to test applications on a new release of a platform are >>> >> users who are trying out a new 'phone in a shop. >>> >>> >> Al. >>> >>> >> -----Original Message----- >>> >> From: android-developers@googlegroups.com >>> >> [mailto:android-develop...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of >>> >> Jean-Baptiste Queru >>> >> Sent: 24 March 2009 15:39 >>> >> To: android-developers@googlegroups.com >>> >> Subject: [android-developers] Re: Cupcake coming in April? Where is >>> >> the SDK? >>> >>> >> 1.1 was essentially a update of a few Google-proprietary bits on top >>> >> of the same platform as 1.0. >>> >> From the point of view of the Android platform (and therefore of the >>> >> SDK as well), the differences between 1.0 and 1.1 are extremely >>> >> minor. >>> >>> >> Cupcake is a branch name, it's not a released version. A future >>> >> numbered release will be cut from the cupcake branch, but that >>> >> product isn't ready yet, and therefore there can be no SDK yet. >>> >>> >> As cupcake contains significant platform changes compared to 1.0/1.1, >>> >> you can be sure that you'll have an official SDK for a >>> >> cupcake-originated release as soon as possible. >>> >>> >> JBQ >>> >>> >> On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 1:16 AM, tauntz <tau...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> >> > I just hope that this time the release date for the official SDK >>> >> > will be BEFORE the update hits the masses. Not like it was with the >>> >> > 1.1SDK >>> >> > - it was released way after 1.1 was released to end-users (the >>> >> > argument from Google was something in the lines of "Hey, this is a >>> >> > small release with no mayor changes so don't whine that you get it >>> >> > so late"). Maybe I'm the only one who thinks that this is ridiculous.. >>> >> > One of the reasons why we don't have the official 1.5 (or cupcake >>> >> > or however it will be officially called) SDK is that "It's not >>> >> > stable enough" - fair enough but I really hope that you guys @ >>> >> > Google will release it as soon as the code is stable enough (eg the >>> >> > code is tested and ready to be released to the operators). That >>> >> > would give us a week (maybe more) before the operators push it to the >>> end-users. >>> >>> >> > And don't come with the "you can build your own SDK from the >>> >> > opensource tree if you want" - the last releases didn't come from >>> >> > the opensource tree so even if I wanted, i couldn't build the SDK >>> >> > based on the code that's shipped to the end-users. And even if this >>> >> > release will actually come from the public tree, you can't expect >>> >> > all app developers to build their own SDK, can you? We need an >>> >> > official SDK - and we need it as soon as the tree is stable enough >>> >> > (and way before it's pushed to the carriers/end-users) >>> >>> >> > Tauno >>> >>> >> > On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 2:38 AM, AndroidApp <zl25dre...@gmail.com> >>> >> > wrote: >>> >>> >> >> Not if you stay anonymous (hint, hint) ;-) >>> >>> >> >> On Mar 23, 7:58 pm, Anonymous Anonymous >>> >> >> <firewallbr...@googlemail.com> >>> >> >> wrote: >>> >> >>> " Someone from Google? " makes it official i guess :D >>> >>> >> >>> On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 12:47 AM, AndroidApp >>> >> >>> <zl25dre...@gmail.com> >>> >> wrote: >>> >>> >> >>> > Can someone capable just compile the SDK and post it online for >>> >> >>> > everyone? Someone from Google? I dont really care if it's not >>> >> >>> > official, i just dont want to download the source tree just to >>> >> >>> > build the SDK, plus i need to do the tricks you mentioned to >>> >> >>> > make it work on windows. >>> >>> >> >>> > On Mar 23, 1:11 pm, Marco Nelissen <marc...@android.com> wrote: >>> >> >>> > > I certainly hope there aren't "a lot" of applications that >>> >> >>> > > use reflection and private APIs. >>> >>> >> >>> > > On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 6:59 AM, zl25drexel >>> >> >>> > > <zl25dre...@gmail.com> >>> >> >>> > wrote: >>> >>> >> >>> > > > Cupcake is coming, and as you know it will break a lot of >>> >> >>> > > > apps in the market, those that use reflection & private >>> >> >>> > > > api. So where is the Cupcake SDK/emulator for us to try our >>> apps? >>> >>> >> >>> > > > I know we can download the source codes and build it, and I >>> >> >>> > > > know apps wont break if they dont use undocumented api, >>> >> >>> > > > blah blah blah, but we should get an official SDK/emulator >>> >> >>> > > > for cupcake, dont you think, google? >>> >>> >> -- >>> >> Jean-Baptiste M. "JBQ" Queru >>> >> Android Engineer, Google. >>> >>> >> Questions sent directly to me that have no reason for being private >>> >> will likely get ignored or forwarded to a public forum with no further >>> warning. >>> >>> -- >>> Romain Guy >>> Android framework engineer >>> romain...@android.com >>> >>> Note: please don't send private questions to me, as I don't have time to >>> provide private support. All such questions should be posted on public >>> forums, where I and others can see and answer them >> > >> > > > > -- Lliane aka Simon Depiets Epita Promo 2011,42 http://www.lliane.com A man is smoking with his girlfriend. She angers herself : "don't you see the warning on the box ?!" To which the man replies, "I am a programmer. I don't worry about warnings. I only worry about errors." --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Android Developers" group. To post to this group, send email to android-developers@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to android-developers-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
