Jean-Baptiste,
I've looked around and I'm still not clear on something.
If I order the ADP1, is there a possibility to flash the standard
TMobile US image and just the use the phone as a fully-functional,
locked G1?
Thanks,
Rodin
On Mar 2, 3:16 pm, Jean-Baptiste Queru <j...@android.com> wrote:
> That wouldn't work, as you could download with the "locked" firmware,
> flash an "unlocked" firmware, and get the files out.
>
> JBQ
>
> 2009/3/2 vendor <vendor....@gmail.com>:
>
>
>
> > What do you think about the idea of two firmware versions for ADP1?
>
> > 2009/3/3 Jean-Baptiste Queru <j...@android.com>
>
> >> As far as I know by the time you remove from ADP1 the features that
> >> would allow access to forward-locked apps (flashable, root, debuggable
> >> system), you have essentially a consumer device.
>
> >> JBQ
>
> >> 2009/3/2 vendor.net <vendor....@gmail.com>:
>
> >> >> Most importantly though, I'm really disappointed in Google's lack of
> >> >> communication on the topic. I have to scour the web just to find a
> >> >> hint of some idea of what's going on with thedevphone. There is no
> >> >> official word or anything. Google should at least have a posting on
> >> >> the Developer's blog. Where is Google's "Contact Us" link for those
> >> >> of us who paid the $25?
> >> > Totally agree!
>
> >> > Hint for some desperate developers who wants to trade ADP1 for G1. You
> >> > can put the G1 firmware. Your phone will be full locked except for the
> >> > sim card I think, but you will have G1 firmware. Just have to flash
> >> > it, but still I didn`t think that this is the solution...
>
> >> > I see one possible solution for dealing with the situation: To have 2
> >> > versions for developers. The first version will be totally unlocked,
> >> > but it will not support the full market. The second version will lock
> >> > only these dirs which contains the paid apps. The second version of
> >> > the firmware will lock only the dirs and the processes which control
> >> > the copy/protection of the apps. There could be flaws, but I will be
> >> > happy to read your comments about it. It is a possible solution? JQB?
>
> >> > On1Март, 08:08, Sen <senecajust...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >> Well, you all have certainly taken this discussion in an interesting
> >> >> direction.
>
> >> >> I would just like to add to my original posting. Hopefully we still
> >> >> have some official Google person's attention.
>
> >> >> I'm pretty understanding when it comes to deadlines not being met when
> >> >> it comes to stuff like this. We're all developers here and I'm sure
> >> >> we've all experienced this. I would agree though that I think the
> >> >> people that went out of their way and paid the extra money for a
> >> >> "developer edition" phone, should be the first to get the updates.
>
> >> >> Most importantly though, I'm really disappointed in Google's lack of
> >> >> communication on the topic. I have to scour the web just to find a
> >> >> hint of some idea of what's going on with thedevphone. There is no
> >> >> official word or anything. Google should at least have a posting on
> >> >> the Developer's blog. Where is Google's "Contact Us" link for those
> >> >> of us who paid the $25?
>
> >> >> Why do I have to ask this question?... we really should be better
> >> >> informed.
>
> >> >> Thanks
>
> >> >> On Feb 28,1:16 pm, Jon Colverson <jjc1...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >> >> > On Feb 28, 6:46 pm, Al Sutton <a...@funkyandroid.com> wrote:
>
> >> >> > > method), and, as far as I'm aware, there isn't a method circulating
> >> >> > > which can be applied to any and every protected application to get
> >> >> > > a
> >> >> > > protection free copy by following a simple set of instructions (if
> >> >> > > there
> >> >> > > is I'd welcome information on it so we can work on fixing the flaw
> >> >> > > it
> >> >> > > uses).
>
> >> >> > I'm not aware of one either, but I expect that a tool would emerge
> >> >> > very quickly if the AndAppStore takes off when it starts being
> >> >> > distributed with handsets and such. You could then tweak the system
> >> >> > to
> >> >> > stop the tool from working, but then the attacker would release a new
> >> >> > version, and you'd be in an arms race.
>
> >> >> > The reason why I say they're equivalent is that while the steps along
> >> >> > the way may be different, the end result is the same: people who
> >> >> > don't
> >> >> > want to pay will get the apps for free. In my opinion adding extra
> >> >> > hurdles just wastes the developers' time and provides a juicier
> >> >> > intellectual challenge for those who are inclined to try to defeat
> >> >> > the
> >> >> > system.
>
> >> >> > --
> >> >> > Jon
>
> >> --
> >> Jean-Baptiste M. "JBQ" Queru
> >> Android Engineer, Google.
>
> >> Questions sent directly to me will likely get ignored or forwarded to
> >> a public forum with no further warning.
>
> --
> Jean-Baptiste M. "JBQ" Queru
> Android Engineer, Google.
>
> Questions sent directly to me will likely get ignored or forwarded to
> a public forum with no further warning.
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