I am sorry i am not sure if i get it . So are you tryin to say that
one third party app would not be able to install another
app which will run as a separate app but it can add classes to the
existing process....

On Apr 14, 8:39 pm, Dianne Hackborn <[email protected]> wrote:
> This is exactly as I have already said: this API is not available to third
> party apps, and cupcake will not change this.  Addressing the original
> poster, there is a new API in cupcake to be able to dynamically load classes
> with Dalvik.
>
>
>
> On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 1:13 AM, tiwana <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > So i downloaded the system images of cupcake for my emulator , my
> > emulator shows that it is now upgraded to version 1.5 ,i wrote an app
> > which can install other apps, gave this app INSTLL_PACKAGES permission
> > and installed this app in normal /data/app folder. But still when i
> > run this app i get the exception that INSTALL_PACKAGES cannot be
> > granted. i go to settings and see my app does not have this
> > permission. Is this because the system images available on net are not
> > fully developed?
>
> > On Apr 14, 12:01 am, zhoubo shi <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > I think we should not write  anything  to  the system folder.
>
> > > 2009/4/14 Dianne Hackborn <[email protected]>
>
> > > > Nothing has been announced yet.
>
> > > > On Mon, Apr 13, 2009 at 1:37 PM, tiwana <[email protected]>
> > wrote:
>
> > > >> So when will be the cupcake available?
>
> > > >> On Apr 9, 7:06 pm, Dianne Hackborn <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > >> > That's why apps can't install other apps without the user being
> > > >> involved.  I
> > > >> > was addressing the first part of the original poster's request,
> > being
> > > >> able
> > > >> > to download and run Dalvik code in your own process.  In that case
> > the
> > > >> new
> > > >> > API will let you do this, though of course you are running the other
> > > >> code as
> > > >> > -yourself- so taking responsibility for anything it does.
>
> > > >> > On Thu, Apr 9, 2009 at 3:35 PM, BIRJODH <[email protected]>
> > > >> wrote:
>
> > > >> > > Would not it be somewhat dangerous to allow apps is /data/app
> > folder
> > > >> > > to install other applications?? An app can just create an infinite
> > > >> > > loop in which downloads applications which do not require any
> > > >> > > permission and keep on installing them and fill out the memory
> > space?
>
> > > >> > > Birjodh
>
> > > >> > > On Apr 9, 1:56 pm, Dianne Hackborn <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > >> > > > There is an API in cupcake to allow you to perform the dexopt
> > into
> > > >> your
> > > >> > > own
> > > >> > > > directory.  That will be available when cupcake is available.
>
> > > >> > > > On Thu, Apr 9, 2009 at 2:05 AM, Eborix13 <[email protected]>
> > > >> wrote:
>
> > > >> > > > > Hi,
>
> > > >> > > > > We are a team of Android developers and we are facing a
> > serious
> > > >> > > > > problem for quite some time. Our app (a game client) is
> > designed
> > > >> in
> > > >> > > > > such a way, that once it's installed it can be used to
> > download
> > > >> games
> > > >> > > > > from a game server. In order for the downloaded games to work,
> > > >> they
> > > >> > > > > have to be installed and launched by the client.
>
> > > >> > > > > The problem is that the client has no write/update rights for
> > the
> > > >> /
> > > >> > > > > data/dalvik-cache directory, unless we specifically execute
> > the
> > > >> chmod
> > > >> > > > > 777 command for that directory. Setting the
> > > >> > > > > android.permission.INSTALL_PACKAGES permission in the client's
> > > >> > > > > manifest file also doesn't work. After reading countless
> > forums
> > > >> where
> > > >> > > > > other people have complained about the same problem, we would
> > like
> > > >> to
> > > >> > > > > know when this issue is going to be resolved. Apparently the
> > code
> > > >> for
> > > >> > > > > this feature already exists (the DexFile class of the so
> > called
> > > >> > > > > "cupcake" release) but it hasn't been released yet.
>
> > > >> > > > > What's more frustrating is that the Android team points out
> > that
> > > >> all
> > > >> > > > > Android apps are equal, that system apps are equal in rights
> > to
> > > >> custom
> > > >> > > > > apps. Obviously this is not the case. If the client game app
> > is
> > > >> > > > > installed in the /system/app the problem described above is
> > > >> solved.
> > > >> > > > > System apps have the right to dynamically install other apps.
> > > >> Regular
> > > >> > > > > apps (installed in the /data/data folder) do not.
>
> > > >> > > > > Is this issue going to be resolved anytime soon? Will the
> > > >> "cupcake"
> > > >> > > > > DexFile class going to be present in the next release? This is
> > a
> > > >> > > > > rather urgent problem since we are waiting for this new
> > > >> functionality
> > > >> > > > > in order to continue development.
>
> > > >> > > > > Thank you...
>
> > > >> > > > --
> > > >> > > > Dianne Hackborn
> > > >> > > > Android framework engineer
> > > >> > > > [email protected]
>
> > > >> > > > Note: please don't send private questions to me, as I don't have
> > > >> time to
> > > >> > > > provide private support, and so won't reply to such e-mails.
> >  All
> > > >> such
> > > >> > > > questions should be posted on public forums, where I and others
> > can
> > > >> see
> > > >> > > and
> > > >> > > > answer them.
>
> > > >> > --
> > > >> > Dianne Hackborn
> > > >> > Android framework engineer
> > > >> > [email protected]
>
> > > >> > Note: please don't send private questions to me, as I don't have
> > time to
> > > >> > provide private support, and so won't reply to such e-mails.  All
> > such
> > > >> > questions should be posted on public forums, where I and others can
> > see
> > > >> and
> > > >> > answer them.
>
> > > > --
> > > > Dianne Hackborn
> > > > Android framework engineer
> > > > [email protected]
>
> > > > Note: please don't send private questions to me, as I don't have time
> > to
> > > > provide private support, and so won't reply to such e-mails.  All such
> > > > questions should be posted on public forums, where I and others can see
> > and
> > > > answer them.
>
> --
> Dianne Hackborn
> Android framework engineer
> [email protected]
>
> Note: please don't send private questions to me, as I don't have time to
> provide private support, and so won't reply to such e-mails.  All such
> questions should be posted on public forums, where I and others can see and
> answer them.
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