Hi Mike,

Thanks for the advice... here are my answers.

> > 1. Are there e.g. onStartup() and onShutdown() per-application events,
> > or similar, that I can hook into, to serve up a login dialog and set
> > the login state in Preferences? If not, then how should I implement
> > login?
>
> So, your first problem is conceptual. The idea of an "application"
> isn't as well defined in Android as a desktop OS (deliberately). For
> instance, it's pretty clear what happens when the user presses the
> icon on the launcher or home screen - you display the login screen.
> What if the user receives a call whilst using your app, and it
> switches to the background? Does the user have to log in again when
> returning? No, that makes no sense. What if they press home and do
> something else for, say, 20 minutes - log in again then? Probably not.

Ideally I'd like to give people the choice of (a) mild security - log
in only when they first start the app, or (b) strong security - log in
every time they switch away from it, for whatever reason.

At a minimum I'd like to offer (a) mild security - log in every time
the app is launched if it's not already running in the background.

If there's no onStartup/onShutdown event, then I guess I can't store a
boolean value for logged_in in the Preferences, since it'll persist. I
could pass it in a Bundle back and forth between activities, which
would die with the app. But how secure would that be? Could someone
pass a Bundle to the activity automatically?

> Could you describe why you want this in a bit more detail? Phones are
> already protected by key locks, I don't see why you need a separate
> login system for your app?

Ah, it's because I've already released an app on the market and the #1
feature request from users is for a password. I know, I find it
surprising too!

I guess it must be either people who don't use a keylock most of the
time, or who share a phone occasionally, or who are paranoid about
other people reading their private stuff (it's a notebook app).

> > 2. Assuming that I save the login state and the user's password
> > (hashed with a salt) in Preferences, how secure will that be?
>
> That's impossible to answer because you did not describe what the
> login is protecting. Saving a hashed password with a salt isn't really
> secure because somebody can just decompile the apk to find out what
> the salt is then brute force the result *if* the phone is rooted. If
> it is not rooted they'd have to do that first.

Thanks. Um, sorry for the naive question, how hard is it to root a
phone?

I just want to know what to say to users. Saying "your private details
are secure from other normal users, but probably not if a determined
hacker with root access steals your phone" would be fine.

cheers

Anna
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