If I have a long running operation should i spawn a new thread or
create new service with different process id (without creating new
thread)? Because I'm not sure I understand the difference, despite the
fact I read a lot of information concerning the subject.

On Sep 29, 4:32 pm, Streets Of Boston <[email protected]> wrote:
> If you want to keep your thread running after you press the home or
> back button, i'm afraid you'd have to use a service.
>
> When your activity is popped off the back-stack (e.g. pressing home),
> the OS could kill the process in which your activity is running and
> your thread will be terminated. As far as I know, there's no way
> around that.
>
> If you just want to keep the progress dialog up and running after
> keyboard changes and orientation changes, put the progress bar in a
> Dialog managed by the activity (showDialog(dialogID)). The activity
> then makes sure that the progress dialog is shown again after
> orientation change.
>
> On Sep 29, 3:11 am, Kacper86 <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > hi!
>
> > first of all, i have to admit that i was wrong. when you set
> > Dialog#setCancelable(false), hit home button, rerun your app, then
> > your progress dialog does not always work. so i'm still stuck :/
>
> > @Broc Seib:
> > thank you for your response! you said that you terminate your thread
> > when gui thread is dead. however i just want to do the opposite - i
> > want my thread to be alive while gui is gone. and when gui is
> > restarted, it should still be able to receive messages from running
> > thread. do know if that can be achieved without creating service with
> > thread and binding to it?
>
> > On Sep 28, 4:43 am, Broc Seib <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > I have built progress bars where I hay d a background thread that updated 
> > > my
> > > Activity via callbacks (to do GUI updates in the UI thread).
>
> > > I ended up using a WeakReference object to hold the callback pointer to my
> > > Activity.  I have made the assumption (right or wrong) that my UI thread 
> > > may
> > > be gone while my background thread still exists. I was experiencing some
> > > funky exceptions while testing my app -- I was rudely interrupting my
> > > application by pressing the back or home button in the middle of my
> > > background thread doing some non-GUI work.
> > > So when it is time for my background thread to report to my UI thread, if 
> > > my
> > > WeakReference returns null, then I just silently exit my thread in the
> > > background, knowing my UI thread is gone.
>
> > > Below is a canonical example demonstrating what I am doing. There may be
> > > more suitable solutions that I have not learned yet.
> > > -broc
>
> > > package foo.example;
>
> > > import java.lang.ref.WeakReference;
>
> > > public class BackgroundThreadExample extends Thread {
> > >  public interface Callback {
> > > public void onSomeBadEventUpdateGuiThread(Object stuff);
> > > public void onSomeGoodEventUpdateGuiThread(Object things);
>
> > > }
>
> > > private WeakReference<Callback> weakCallback;
> > > private Object stuffYouCareAbout;
> > >  public BackgroundThreadExample(Callback callback, Object 
> > > stuffYouCareAbout)
> > > {
> > > super("myThreadName");
> > > this.weakCallback = new WeakReference<Callback>(callback);
> > > this.stuffYouCareAbout = stuffYouCareAbout;}
>
> > > �...@override
> > > public void run() {
> > > // do background stuff
> > > boolean isGood = doStuff(this.stuffYouCareAbout);
> > >  try {
> > > // inform our UI via callback.
> > > if ( isGood ) {
> > > getCallback().onSomeGoodEventUpdateGuiThread("was good");} else {
>
> > > getCallback().onSomeBadEventUpdateGuiThread("was bad");}
> > > }
>
> > > catch (MyWeakRefException e) {
> > > // our UI thread object is gone. bummer.
> > > // silently fall thru to exit this thread.
>
> > > }
> > > }
>
> > > private boolean doStuff(Object stuffYouCareAbout) {
> > > // some useful stuff might go here.
> > > return true;}
>
> > >  private Callback getCallback() throws MyWeakRefException {
> > > Callback callback = weakCallback.get();
> > > if ( callback == null ) {
> > > throw new MyWeakRefException();
>
> > > } else {
> > > return callback;
> > > }
> > > }
> > > }
> > > On Sat, Sep 26, 2009 at 8:17 PM, Kacper86 <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > Thank you for your response! It works great - now I can change the
> > > > orientation and the ProgressDialog works. And do have any ideas how to
> > > > solve the problem with user hitting "back" or "home" button? I found
> > > > that you may set your Dialog with Dialog#setCancelable(false). Then,
> > > > the user can only hit "home" button, and when he launches the app
> > > > again, ProgressDialog is still there!
>
> > > > However, what should be done if I want Dialog that can be cancelable?
> > > > So that the user can cancel ProgressDialog, set something in the app
> > > > settings, hit "home" button, run sth else, and then relaunch my app to
> > > > check the progress?
>
> > > > On Sep 26, 11:36 am, manoj <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > > You need to implement the method
> > > > >  public void onConfigurationChanged(Configuration arg0)
> > > > >     {
> > > > >             super.onConfigurationChanged(arg0);
> > > > >     }
>
> > > > > in your activity. and in manifest file, you have to the statement
> > > > > android:configChanges="keyboardHidden|orientation" for that activity.
>
> > > > > so when your screen orientation is changed, it wont call the onCreate
> > > > > () method again.
>
> > > > > On Sep 26, 1:21 pm, Kacper86 <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > Hi!
>
> > > > > > I've created ProgressDialog with a second thread according to the
> > > > > > DevGuide:
>
> > > >http://developer.android.com/guide/topics/ui/dialogs.html#ProgressDialog
> > > > > > It works great till user:
>
> > > > > > 1) changes screen orientation or
> > > > > > 2) hits the back button twice (first to hide the dialog, second to
> > > > > > hide the app) to hide the application and run the app again after a
> > > > > > while.
>
> > > > > > Then, onCreate() is called (for the second time), and progress bar
> > > > > > stops responding properly. My thread may work for a few minutes and 
> > > > > > I
> > > > > > want to give the user possibility to hide it and do sth else. After 
> > > > > > a
> > > > > > while he might want to run the app again in order to check the
> > > > > > progress.
>
> > > > > > I found a few articles concerning this topic, but I couldn't find 
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > exact solution I should chose for this problem. So, could you tell 
> > > > > > mi
> > > > > > what is the proper way to handle this? Should i save the handler and
> > > > > > dialog state with "onRetainNonConfigurationInstance()"? If so, how 
> > > > > > to
> > > > > > do it properly and is it safe?
>
> > > > > > Or maybe my solution is wrong and I should create service, which
> > > > > > spawns the thread and communicates with activity (progress bar) with
> > > > > > AIDL?  But this will mean that the article in DevGuide is wrong, 
> > > > > > cause
> > > > > > it doesn't give a long term solution for creating a progress bar...
>
> > > > > > I'm stuck, and I'd appreciate all the response!- Hide quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -
>
>
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