By hotlinking Tim means using a download URL from another application directory in their own listings, so when a user uses the AppsLib client and goes to download an app the download may actually come from another sites servers.
AppsLib have some apps hotlinked to AndAppStore (without agreement), and the way they've done it refers to specific versions of applications which means there is no guarantee that the download will be available to users when they click on them (because a developer may have removed that version from public use at AndAppStore), and even if the developer updates the app at AndAppStore any users using AppsLib won't see the updates because of the way Diotasoft/Archos have done things. They also link out to SlideME without any agreement, and to GetJar. If you want to see it for yourself you can download their releases file from http://files.appslib.com/db/Releases.dat , open it up in a file editor, and search for andappstore , slideme, or getjar. Al. On Oct 22, 9:07 pm, strazzere <str...@gmail.com> wrote: > In addition to what Al has said, it's been interesting to see that > many, MANY applications as essentially hotlinked to other sites for > downloading. Very few of the applications posted appear to be actually > hosted on appslib servers. > > This to me is a concern for a few reasons. Has permission been grated > for this to happen? How does this protect me against bad updates/or > even get me updates? Is that why I can't access have the applications, > and did that author even submit it comes into question... > > -Tim > > On Oct 22, 3:03 pm, Al Sutton <a...@funkyandroid.com> wrote: > > > > > Here is our account of what happened between us at AndAppStore and > > Archos; > > > We worked with Archos for several weeks helping them design and > > develop AppsLib, this included me personally travelling to Archoses > > head office in Paris for meetings with Henri Crohas (Founder and CEO > > of Archos), and other members of their senior management, as well as > > various email and information exchanges. The relationship was such > > that at one point I personally was in possession of a pre-release > > Android Archos 5 for a few weeks before it was officially launched. > > > Very early on in the development a mutual NDA was signed after which > > AndAppStore, at Archoses request, supplied proprietary information > > about AndAppStores' client/server data exchange mechanisms, system > > architecture, and provided a version of the AndAppStore client with a > > customised user interface designed to work on the WVGA display of the > > Archos 5. All of the information supplied to them was given in order > > to allow them to develop their server to ensure it was compatible with > > the customised AndAppStore client which we were told would be used as > > the AppsLib client. > > > During our work with them we agreed the terms of an ongoing > > relationship which would cover the cost of the consulting and > > development work, and although the original deal was modified a few > > times (by mutual agreement), a contract was drawn up by Archos which > > we signed and returned it to them for countersigning. Archos then > > refused to countersign their own contract, and thus the relationship > > ended. > > > When AppsLib was released it came to light that Archos had asked a > > third party, Diotasoft, to develop an almost functionally identical > > client for them and that AppsLib used the same system architecture and > > data exchange methods as AndAppStore, the details of which had been > > supplied to Archos under the mutual NDA at a time when we were being > > told we would be compensated via the terms of the ongoing relationship > > which had since ended. > > > The extent of the use was that the Diotasoft/Archos AppsLib used > > exactly file formats, data set names, relationships between data sets, > > and methods of accessing the data as used in AndAppStore, and the > > AndAppStore client could read, parse, and populate its' internal > > database with data from AppsLib without modification. > > > The current situation is this; As of today we have received no payment > > of any kind for the work we did, and the only invoice we have > > submitted is now overdue and has not been paid, and so we are seeking > > legal advice as to what options are open to us in relation to the > > information must have redistributed to Diotasoft in order to allow > > them to develop a client to our specifications and their development > > of an almost identical client. With all this in mind we are also > > examining the financial stability of Archos to determine whether or > > not Archos would be able to pay any award made to us by the time any > > legal action would be completed. > > > Hopefully you're all now able to make your decisions a little easier > > as opposed to having to guess whats' going on. > > > Al. > > -- > > > * Looking for Android Apps? - Tryhttp://andappstore.com/* > > > ====== > > Funky Android Limited is registered in England & Wales with the > > company number 6741909. > > > The views expressed in this email are those of the author and not > > necessarily those of Funky Android Limited, it's associates, or it's > > subsidiaries. > > > On Oct 22, 5:57 pm, Streets Of Boston <flyingdutc...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > There could be plenty of reason's 'why'. Costs less, faster to market, > > > etc. > > > I hope, too, that all this is just a mis-understanding. But > > > AndAppStore states that it has some good proof that parts of their > > > software have been 'used' by Archos for the Archos Market. > > > > On Oct 22, 4:52 am, arnouf <arnaud.far...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > I'm not an Archos employee ! > > > > I think that this story is a little bit strange, because I don't think > > > > that Archos did something like that if they want have a good place on > > > > the android place... > > > > > Now, I can't confirm if Archos or AndAppStore are right but I don't > > > > think why Archos should stole codes... > > > > > On 21 oct, 16:11, Streets Of Boston <flyingdutc...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > Same here. > > > > > If they indeed did that, then i won't put my app there. > > > > > > On Oct 20, 1:25 pm, niko20 <nikolatesl...@yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > Maybe I will wait until I find out if you really stole the code for > > > > > > your app store from the andAppStore developers. At least that is the > > > > > > current allegation. > > > > > > > -niko > > > > > > > On Oct 20, 3:55 am, arnouf <arnaud.far...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > If you have developed or if you are developing applications, and > > > > > > > they > > > > > > > are on the Android Market - Great! - But these apps are only > > > > > > > available for devices that have contracts with Google. > > > > > > > > Archos, a major PMP manufacturer, launched its first device on > > > > > > > 25th of > > > > > > > September: the Archos 5 IT. Archos has a real community of fans > > > > > > > who > > > > > > > are waiting for applications for their devices. This device is the > > > > > > > first of a long product line (the first Archos phone should be > > > > > > > available soon too!). > > > > > > > > It's a new opportunity for your applications to find new fans! > > > > > > > > You can post your apps, for free, on the Archos Market called > > > > > > > Appslib > > > > > > > (http://www.appslib.com). > > > > > > > > Today, only free applications are available for distribution on > > > > > > > AppsLib, but Archos promises the possibility to distribute your > > > > > > > paid > > > > > > > apps soon ! > > > > > > > > Don't wait : more applications, more users, more fans...and more > > > > > > > revenue (soon)! > > > > > > > > Arnaud- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > > - Show quoted text - --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Android Developers" group. 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