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On Apr 9, 3:18 pm, "SoftwareForMe.com SoftwareForMe.com"
<[email protected]> wrote:
> Personally, I think the last part of this conversation is much ado about
> nothing. Nick was the original registrar, and original architect of the
> illegal business, and the public information shows that connection and that
> is all. "Covering your tracks" after a crime is something best left to the
> criminal, and there's really no need to have public debate about whether
> it's okay for people to re-disclose public information, whether it makes
> others nervous or not; of course its okay.
>
> And Nick, nobody has "dragged you back into this." It appears you have
> simply not completely taken yourself out in the first place.
>
> *About the site*: they are pirates. They plan to release an app to the
> market soon that will let their customers download your apps for free (after
> paying them, of course). They have done several waves of advertising via
> Market comments on all the apps they have purchased (in fact, it was a
> comment by Nick on our app that first brought my attention to their site,
> late last year).
>
> Consequently, you can't really tell if they carry your app, because the
> catalog visible to non-users does not show all of their downloads. For
> example, they carry our product right now, but it is not in the public
> catalog. Nonetheless, many users have notified us that they found our
> product there. However, if you cannot find your app in the public list, I
> encourage you to forget it for now and NOT pay them for a membership. I
> believe they have already made many thousands in ill-gotten gains.
>
> Finally, I think there are only two solutions to this and the many other
> pirate sites:
> (1) Protect your app with some license scheme.
> (2) Launch a campaign to take down the site. This will have to be done via a
> lawsuit.
>
> Google is unlikely to do anything about this because it's not their fight,
> and it doesn't harm them in any way.
>
> Cheers!
> SoftwareForMe.com
>
>
>
> On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 10:25 PM, Al Sutton <[email protected]> wrote:
> > There is no law which covers reproducing information in the public
> > domain (such as whois records).
>
> > You should contact the registrar (GoDaddy), inform them the
> > information is wrong and they're publishing your personal information,
> > and ask for the domain to be taken down as it's incorrectly
> > registered.
>
> > Better still, as whomever is involved in it has listed you as the
> > admin and tech contacts you could ask GoDaddy to transfer the domain
> > to your control, then point it at a domain parking page. That way you
> > could get money from the parking page and the site would become a non-
> > issue for everyone here and so they'd stop hassling you.
>
> > Have a nice day,
>
> > Al.
>
> > On Apr 9, 1:23 am, "Guess Who, You Probably have my Number"
> > <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > I will say this one more time.  DO NOT own this site or am I
> > > affiliated with it. I f I see anybody else freely placing my personal
> > > information on a forum,etc. I will have my lawyer personally contact
> > > you. As this is a violation of more than one law, regardless of my
> > > past, this is wrong. It was sold to a guy out of Sweden. What he did
> > > or does with it is out of my control.
> > > Please remove my contact info.
>
> > > On Apr 8, 8:07 pm, Bob Kerns <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > Well, if my paid app shows up there, I'll be contacting their ISP,
> > > > domain registrar, and local authorities. I encourage anyone similarly
> > > > being ripped off to do the same.
>
> > > > I'm only doing it if my app shows up there, because then I'll have the
> > > > evidence and the legal standing for a complaint.
>
> > > > They appear to be located in Florida, so this should fall under the
> > > > DCMA, which is a lousy law, but at least should work OK; this sort of
> > > > thing has always been illegal.
>
> > > > If someone's feeling adventurous, they can email and/or call and see
> > > > what they have to say for themselves. It's still possible we're
> > > > jumping to conclusions.
>
> > > > Registrant:
> > > >    Private
> > > >    9306 new heritage rd apt 302
> > > >    orlando, Florida 32825
> > > >    United States
>
> > > >    Domain Name: ANDROIDPLAYGROUND.NET
> > > >       Created on: 10-Sep-09
> > > >       Expires on: 10-Sep-11
> > > >       Last Updated on: 26-Jan-10
>
> > > >    Administrative Contact:
> > > >       narbone, nicholas
> > > >       9306 new heritage rd apt 302
> > > >       orlando, Florida 32825
> > > >       United States
> > > >       +1.4073348336      Fax --
>
> > > >    Technical Contact:
> > > >       narbone, nicholas
> > > >       9306 new heritage rd apt 302
> > > >       orlando, Florida 32825
> > > >       United States
> > > >       +1.4073348336      Fax --
>
> > > >    Domain servers in listed order:
> > > >       NS1.ANDROIDPLAYGROUND.NET
> > > >       NS2.ANDROIDPLAYGROUND.NET
>
> > > > On Apr 8, 8:59 am, nexbug <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > Basically you can get a subscription to their site for a nominal fee
> > > > > and they will give you access to pirated android apps. The same apps
> > > > > that you publish for a fee, the seem to download them from the market
> > > > > by paying you once and distribute to their paid users for free. Nice
> > > > > business model. I think Google has been notified of these guys a
> > > > > hundred times, but i dont think anyone cares, assuming that these
> > > > > folks may not be making a dent big enough to justify any action.
> > > > > I guess this is the flipside of playing on an open platform.. focus
> > on
> > > > > building a better product and worry less about the bottom-feeders.
>
> > > > > -g
>
> > > > > On Apr 8, 8:43 am, Michael MacDonald <[email protected]>
> > > > > wrote:
>
> > > > > > On 04/08/10 08:23, Bob Kerns wrote:> HOWEVER -- as a developer, I
> > can find no way to list my paid app on
> > > > > > > their site. This makes me very suspicious. Are the developers
> > getting
> > > > > > > paid, or are these pirates?
>
> > > > > > 100% pirates
>
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