>(our revenue is from ads in the client & customisation deals in case you're >wondering).
Then I'm assuming you must require the app publisher to make some small addition to their source code - which is no big deal to the coder. >If you also add in that Market does things that third party after- market app stores can't (automatic updates, copy protection, permissions-before-download installs), you can see that any company getting into the Android app store space is competing on a uneven playing field from day 1 on devices where they aren't integrated into the firmware If you already require a mod to the source as per above, you could also add some phone-home 'occasionally' capability (your marketplace home) ... which could implement a 'better' copy protection mechanism than the Android Market currently has. Similarly, you could also use such phone-home code to implement a 'better' updates policy - e.g. I find the current update mechanism in Android Market a pain in the butt in that it tries to update apps 'too often'. E.g. you could let the 'phone user' pick a minimum update frequency which overrides those frenetic/frivolous updaters. So, there's two-out-of-three USPs (unique selling points) you could do better than Android Market, in what you have outlined as disadvantages. In addition, you could do the web site version 'a whole lot better' than Android Market. [ I'm actually starting to think that maybe the delay in any Android Market update was largely a lack of traditional structured data modeling skills - having recently watched their curtness/defensiveness at the IO 2010 android fireside chat wrt the Market. Sun Inc had such a problem - because they were such an OO-shop, they didn't really get the need for a DBMS and structured data until way too late. i.e. You can't really do an Amazon-like Web 2.0 shop (recommendations, meta- recommendations, etc) with a free-text-index-Google-style search mentality approach to DB design. ] Whatever the initial reason, given that the annual IO-2010 came-and- went with hot air and no progress Market-wise, the next big 'timing' event for Google to put out any new Android Market features, will be the same week as the release of the Windows7 mobile and its accompanying App Store - which gives you a lot of lead-time for such improvements. Steve On Jun 11, 4:19 pm, Al Sutton <[email protected]> wrote: > Do we need any more app stores? :) > > We've been running AndAppStore since the G1 launch and the most common > reason we hear for developers not listing is that they don't want to > maintain multiple market listings, so I doubt that the creation of > multiple markets backed by large companies is viable. AndAppStore > gives 100% of app sales revenue to developers, making it as profitable > as possible for paid-apps, and we still hit the "multiple market > maintenance" issue (our revenue is from ads in the client & > customisation deals in case you're wondering). > > If you also add in that Market does things that third party after- > market app stores can't (automatic updates, copy protection, > permissions-before-download installs), you can see that any company > getting into the Android app store space is competing on a uneven > playing field from day 1 on devices where they aren't integrated into > the firmware, which makes running a market an unattractive proposition > for most businesses. > > Al. > > P.S. In case you were wondering, we keep running AndAppStore because > people want us to and it doesn't drain the companies resources. There > are users of non-Google experience devices & developers of apps they'd > like to be paid for who live in non-Google approved countries, so > we're happy to keep it running. > > On Jun 11, 5:26 am, Andy Savage <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > I think that it's highly possible for a competing App market to make a > > splash but it would have to come pre-installed on the phones. It could be > > possible though for a company who develops one to pre-install it if they > > make a deal with HTC for certain models of phones :-) > > > Perhaps just pick 2 of the latest phones and make a deal with HTC to include > > it alongside the google one. Or perhaps HTC could cobrand (HTC store run by > > xyz company). > > > -- > > "The greatest challenge to any thinker is stating the problem in a way that > > will allow a solution" > > - Bertrand Russell > > > Andy Savage > > Cell Phone: +852 936 34341 > > Skype ID: andy_savage > > Linked In:http://www.linkedin.com/in/andysavage > > > On Fri, Jun 11, 2010 at 12:21 PM, gosh <[email protected]> wrote: > > > HTC don't have the global reach. > > > Of the Taiwanese companies ACER is probably the most international in > > > reach and intent - although they are pretty much a Microsoft shop. > > > They have this annual pattern thats been going for years, where they > > > demonstrate some prototype typically running some variant of Linux > > > (including Android) at Computex and the like, while they are > > > negotiating a better annual deal for Windows XP/and now Windows7 from > > > Microsoft, as a bargaining chip. ASUS has become their student in this > > > - witness the EeePC which mainly comes installed with a Windows > > > variant these days, after making its splash in the market with Linux. > > > I don't think the answer to android app market invigoration likes in > > > Taiwan. > > > > Steve > > > > On Jun 11, 11:48 am, Chi Kit Leung <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > Maybe HTC can develop their own market. But I am doubtful about they are > > > > working closely with Google. > > > > > On Fri, Jun 11, 2010 at 9:16 AM, Yahel <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > Slight problem, > > > > > > The pre-installed market in every phone is Google's. > > > > > > How do you overcome that ? > > > > > > Internet Explorer is still the most used browser in the world(70 % on > > > > > non-tech-savvy sites) 8 years after the launch of firefox which is way > > > > > better. Just because IE is pre-installed in every windows machine. > > > > > > Same thing here. Other markets won't be able to compete because of > > > > > that. > > > > > > Yahel > > > > > > -- > > > > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > > > > > Groups "Android Developers" group. > > > > > To post to this group, send email to > > > [email protected] > > > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > > > > [email protected]<android-developers%2Bunsubs > > > > > [email protected]><android-developers%2Bunsubs > > > [email protected]> > > > > > For more options, visit this group at > > > > >http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en > > > > > -- > > > > Regards, > > > > Michael Leunghttp://www.itblogs.infohttp://www.michaelleung.info > > > > -- > > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > > > Groups "Android Developers" group. > > > To post to this group, send email to [email protected] > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > > [email protected]<android-developers%2Bunsubs > > > [email protected]> > > > For more options, visit this group at > > >http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers?hl=en -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Android Developers" group. 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