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On Mar 17, 9:55 am, YA <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Vipin:
>
> IMS is a architecture that sits over GSM, and 3G and LTE are both
> extensions of GSM infrastructure. So, yes, I think for another decade
> we are stuck with GSM. In the US and Korea, CDMA is strong, and
> another possible contender to GSM is WiMax. But for now, the choice is
> not this great.
>
> You can run SIP over any data network, of course, but if the operator
> is bypassed, there is a lot they can do to stop it and lock the long-
> distance revenue back into their system. Look, just last week iPhone
> SDK was released with a caveat that there will be absolutely,
> positively NO program access for VoIP to anything except Wi-Fi.
>
> YA
>
> On Mar 16, 2:33 pm, Vipin Kumar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > YA,
>
> > I believe we should always welcome thoughts/ideas. I agree there could be
> > problems in implementing ideas, but there can solution/workarounds for that.
> > Do you think GSM going to stay forever. Look at the developments in mobile
> > standard IMS/3G/LTE(4G). Consider IMS for example where operators are dying
> > to get a new application on their SIP Application Server and there are not
> > much applications available at the moment. One may think of implementing
> > core network part of the application if application requires that, So let us
> > not discourage people to bring their thoughts/ideas/opinions to the
> > community forum.
>
> > -Vipin
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [email protected]
>
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of YA
> > Sent: 16 March 2008 11:11
> > To: Android Discuss
> > Subject: [android-discuss] Re: Micro payments in Android as standard
>
> > Tristan:
>
> > GSM core is NOT a commercial structure, it is a technological architecture
> > that causes certain commercial implications.  The reference provided by
> > Wikipedia is perhaps not the best but is quite good for getting basic
> > knowledge of it. Learning implies not just being told everything but also
> > reading and generally doing a bit of homework.
>
> > YA
>
> > On Mar 15, 9:21 pm, Tristan Brotherton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > wrote:
> > > YA,
>
> > > Sure he doesn't know much about the commercial structure of networks,
> > > but that is what these groups are for. To learn.
>
> > > On Mar 14, 3:50 pm, YA <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > > > Nanard:
>
> > > > it is even more important you learn how GSM core network works
> > > > before you start contemplating operator-dependent features.
>
> > > >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GSM_core_network
>
> > > > Learn the helloworld first.
>
> > > > YA
>
> > > > On Mar 14, 3:44 pm, Nanard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > > > > It's true I don't know online payment.
>
> > > > > I try to find a new feature which could be provided by Android
> > > > > SDK, and some reason to create such feature.  It was the subject
> > > > > of this topic.
>
> > > > > So people participating in the Challenge will have more freedom to
> > > > > implement new kind/killer applications.
>
> > > > > I have finished with this topic, I think.  I won't disturb you more.
>
> > > > > On 14 mar, 13:28, YA <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > Nanard:
>
> > > > > > you make TOO many assumptions about both the way mobile
> > > > > > operators work and the way online payments work. This is not
> > constructive.
>
> > > > > > YA
>
> > > > > > On Mar 13, 7:49 pm, Nanard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > I'm not a commercial guy.  But I think they have some good at
> > > > > > > Google (the boss for instance).
>
> > > > > > > If gPhone are the **only** phone which give the freedom to
> > > > > > > exchange
> > > > > > > **real** money between **regular** people : Carrier should be
> > > > > > > pleased to sell those kind of phones !
> > > > > > > They also don't have to create, maintain, have content for
> > > > > > > commercial web sites !
>
> > > > > > > Google & Carrier could for instance take 1 cents each for
> > > > > > > every money echange between the users : less than PayPal.
> > > > > > > It should be enough : there's more cellular phone user's than
> > > > > > > PayPal users.
>
> > > > > > > On 13 mar, 13:13, YA <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > You need to convince most carriers then to process your
> > > > > > > > payments. How are you going to do this?
>
> > > > > > > > On Mar 12, 11:46 am, Nanard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > Micro payments does not sound as a bad idea but for
> > > > > > > > > > starters I rather Android adopts a similar model as
> > > > > > > > > > IPhone where a user can just go to an Android store to buy
> > androind applications.
>
> > > > > > > > > It's not 'revolutionary'   :-)
> > > > > > > > > Every phone today can do that : buy stuff on Carrier's store.
>
> > > > > > > > > My idea was a bit like a port of PayPal : to enable
> > > > > > > > > payment between people.
> > > > > > > > > But as a standard gPhone feature (API in SDK).
> > > > > > > > > And without the need to create PayPal account.  Most phone
> > > > > > > > > users in the world have an account with their Carrier ,
> > > > > > > > > don't care about computer stuff, and don't know about
> > > > > > > > > PayPal.- Masquer le texte des messages précédents -
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