The problem would be support. If it's a feature that's only in a few 
manufacturers 'phones it's unlikely to appeal to developers because of 
its limited availability and duplication of features when compared to 
BlueTooth and/or 802.11.

Whilst I respect your viewpoint, the Japanese market is a minority 
player and tends to have solutions which don't gain traction elsewhere 
(e.g. iMode, Cellular TV), and it typically accounts for around 10% of 
the global phone market. If you look at sales by volume 
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_best-selling_mobile_phones), none 
of the top 3 'phones have IR (and that's 426 million phones), and if you 
look at smark 'phones none of the recent releases from the major 
manufacturers have IR 
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_smartphones).

IR is also absent from a vast majority of the new generation of NetBooks 
including the more popular Asus EEE range, Aspire One, MSI Wind, and 
Dell Inspiron Mini 9.

In light of this I think it unlikely that we'll see IR support in the 
future.

Al.




acton wrote:
> I respect your opinion.  However, as I am aware, it is the phone
> manufacturer who has to decide what hardware to incorporate into their
> products to sell in a particular market.  The market in Japan seems to
> be the leader for phones - even the US is a laggard in this respect.
>
> Let me quote from a Mercury News report about the lacklustre response
> for the iPhone even though Apple reported it sold 1 million in the
> first 3 days :
>
> "For example, young people in Japan take for granted the ability to
> share phone numbers, e-mail addresses and other contact information by
> beaming it from one phone to another over infrared connections. Being
> without those instantaneous exchanges would be the death knell on the
> Japanese dating circuit.
>
> While the iPhone has Bluetooth wireless links, it has no infrared
> connection.
>
> The iPhone lacks other technology long available on Japanese cell
> phones, such as digital TV broadcasts, a built-in camcorder, voice
> recognition and an "electronic wallet" function. "
>
> For the whole article, click here:
> http://www.mercurynews.com/ci_9898056?IADID=Search-www.mercurynews.com-www.mercurynews.com
>
> I think the Andriod team should look at market needs and if they want
> to be a global phone OS.  As an open platform, Android should support
> as many market needs as they can.  After all, anyone can submit a new
> feature for all to use, isn't it?  But this does not mean a
> manufacturer should (or want to) install all the features - this
> should depend on what they need for the market they want to enter.
>
> That is what I understand is the benefit of an open platform, imho.
>
>
> On Oct 2, 4:12 am, Al Sutton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>   
>> For 'phones Bluetooth is pretty much a "must have" because of ear
>> pieces, GPS integration, and in-car speaker systems which wont work well
>> with the line of sight requirement IR has.
>>
>> imho, given that Android already has 802.11 & BT I can't see there being
>> a lot of call for another communication technology.
>>
>> Al.
>>
>> acton wrote:
>>     
>>> It all depends on what you want to do with wireless data transfer -
>>> i.e. sharing or swapping videos and photos.  These are going to be
>>> very large in the next 6-18 months with 3 megapixel cameraphones and
>>> soon 5 to 8megapixels.
>>>       
>>> Even today some Nokia and Sony Ericsson phones continue to support old
>>> IrDA - at 1Mpbs.  All new phones from NTT Docomo, Softbank, KDDI,
>>> Sharp, Casio, Kyocera, etc support the faster 4Mpbs IrSimple
>>> protocol.  That is also complemented with a whole range of portable
>>> photo printers:  
>>> http://acton-acton.blogspot.com/2008/09/printing-from-your-phone.html
>>>       
>>> I have seen demos of phone-to-phone sharing of photos and user
>>> generated videos using IrSimple - it is fast!   less than 1 sec.   Let
>>> me know if you want to see the live demo - I can bring it to one of
>>> the dev meetings!
>>>       
>>> I know some Japanese companies are trying to get in touch with the
>>> Andriod product team to include IrSimple into their spec.  Anyone can
>>> help to do that?
>>>       
>>> regards,
>>> -acton
>>>       
>>> On Oct 1, 1:32 am, Al Sutton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>       
>>>> The HTC spec sheet
>>>> (http://www.htc.com/www/product/g1/specification.html) makes no mention
>>>> of it so I would assume that it's not going to be there initially.
>>>>         
>>>> IR ports have died off with the increase in popularity of Bluetooth
>>>> because of bluetooths advantage of not needing a line-of-sight link
>>>> between the two devices, so I would go out on a limb and say that I
>>>> think it's unlikely IR will ever make it into a Android device.
>>>>         
>>>> Al.
>>>>         
>>>> sai wrote:
>>>>         
>>>>> I have been trying to find on the android home page, I see Blutooth
>>>>> and wireless support but there is no mention of the infrared port, any
>>>>> ideas if it is supported now or may be later ?
>>>>>           
>>>>> Thanks
>>>>> Sai
>>>>>           
>>>> --
>>>> Al Sutton
>>>>         
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>>>> T: twitter.com/alsutton
>>>>         
> >
>   


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