-----Original Message----- From: GTeye <@gmail.com> To: Repo and Gerrit Discussion <[email protected]> Subject: [repo-discuss] Re: Extracting platform code base prior to cupcake Date: Tue, 30 Dec 2008 16:52:04 -0800 (PST)
My phone has Google stamped on the back of it so I don't totally consider it the same thing as your analogy. Tmobile and Google marketed the G1 together and Tmobile reps are telling customers that updates will be made available whenever they are released by google. When I bought my phone and my wifes, the tmobile rep told us that the a2dp update and soft keyboard were coming as part of the update and he even mentioned "cupcake" by name. I understand you, as android developers, are not personally responsible for this however you, as android developers you can help push Tmobile to make this happen simply because it's going to be a PR nightmare for the android os if tmobile tells its customers, who purchased this phone on good faith, i'd even go so far as saying as a favor to be a guinea pig for this new operating system, that they aren't getting available updates. Being told oh sorry, you'll need the G2 in order to do that is going ot reflect so poorly not only on tmobile but on android. Perhaps, as android developers you could make the transition and inclusion on the G1 easier for them so that they perhaps may do so. Android does not need a pissed off community, they need a happy one and the way the G1 is perceived is going to say alot about the future success of Android. On Dec 30, 2:59 pm, Dave Sparks <[email protected]> wrote: > I'm sympathetic to your situation, but this is the wrong forum for > this > discussion. > > FWIW, the Android Open Source Project has no control over the > deployment of > code on devices. As an analogy, it's a bit like beating the Linux > community > over the head because Dell won't update the Red Hat distro on your > computer. > > > > On Tue, Dec 30, 2008 at 2:36 PM, GTeye <> wrote: > > > Am I to understand that the features of cupcake are not going to > find > > their way onto our Tmobile G1 devices? > > > Many of us purchased these phones with the understanding that the > > google development that was going on to add features to the android > > system were going to be put into place for us to use. > > > It is going to be a very bad start for the android system if G1 > users > > are left out on these features. Customers are going to be irate and > > that is going to trickle down into public perception. > > > I think if this is the case that an announcement needs to be made > asap > > so that people can decide what to do with their phones. > > > On Dec 30, 11:46 am, Jean-Baptiste Queru <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Being able to run custom-built systems that are very close to a > > > shipping device would definiteely valuable, but there are two > hurdles > > > that made that impractical or impossible for the G1: > > > > -The source code for the underying platform that powers the G1 was > not > > > releasable "as is". The additional amount of work that would have > been > > > necessary there would have gotten in the way of being able to > > > open-source cupcake. We preferred to get the cupcake tree out so > that > > > the issue would be less likely to re-appear. > > > > -The G1 contains a significant number of proprietary applications, > > > drivers, etc... that aren't part of the core Android Open-Source > > > Project. Even if the source code for the 1.0 platform that powers > the > > > G1 was released, you'd still be missing many parts to turn the > base > > > platform into something that exactly matches what shipped on the > G1. > > > > Cupcake sets a base that should reduce the impact of the first > aspect, > > > with the open-source tree being hopefully eventually close (or > > > identical) to the underlying platform of the stuff that ends up on > > > consumer devices. > > > > JBQ > > > > On 12/23/08, sandy8531 <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > On Dec 23, 9:34 am, Shawn Pearce <[email protected]> wrote: > > > >> On Mon, Dec 22, 2008 at 21:52, sandy8531 <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > > >> > Now the question remains, what would I need to do to get code > that > > > >> > corresponds to a currently running build number on the G1 ? > > > > >> The branch the G1 is built from hasn't been exported back out > to Git > > since > > > >> the initial open source release. Recent changes are all merged > down > > into > > > >> cupcake, and are available in the open cupcake branch, but they > aren't > > > >> broken out from the cupcake specific changes. Right now I know > of no > > > >> plans > > > >> to re-export the 1.0 branch, because that is effectively in > > maintenance > > > >> mode > > > >> and all activity is on cupcake. > > > > > Oh that is unfortunate. It is incredibly useful for application > > > > developers to get access to production builds and their ability > to > > > > simulate bugs and work through problems. > > > > If it is not getting exported to Git, can the production source, > > > > alternatively, be made available in a read only mode, e.g. it > gets > > > > pushed to some public code server post a build. This would > allow me > > > > to recreate the customer problem on my test systems. > > > > -- > > > Jean-Baptiste M. "JBQ" Queru > > > Android Engineer, Google.- Hide quoted text - > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - 2 Corinthians 13:14 The grace of the Lord Jesus Christ, and the love of God, and the communion of the Holy Spirit be with you all. Amen. Robert Barrett --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Android Discuss" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-discuss?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
