I think we've also what we thought needed to be said. For my part I'm done. Mainly because I have to start cooking. :)
On Feb 2, 2009, at 4:30 PM, LB Coder <[email protected]> wrote: You know, you two really should get a room. Though from time to time I can appreciate a heated philosophical debate, this really isn't the place for it. I pointed out that empires fall and somehow that got twisted into a USA vs the world vs religion conflict. Enough already. There is as of yet no political or religious system in the world that is perfect. Someone always gets the short stick! Someone always misinterprets it. Is USA a democracy? *PARTLY*. It was the best they could do when the system was designed -- that a group of people could select a representative to present their ideas, which will be weighed in order to come to a decision. There is no way that this representative will ever perfectly represent the demands of EVERY person that they represent. And what of those people who are in a minority? Their demands can not be met! Democracy is IMPERFECT! Its the best we have, but its not perfect. Get over it. As for religion... well everyone is entitled to their own beliefs. I have yet to know of a religion that hasn't been used as an excuse for the horrible mistreatment of people. Long before Islam was targeted in the news, it was Christianity. The Jews would claim (as is their way) that they're all innocent victims, but they did it too! In fact, ANYTHING that creates a MORAL SEPARATION between groups of people or individuals WILL INEVITABLY lead to conflict. Now DARWINISM!!! You refer to it as a THEORY. Everything starts as a theory and remains that way until it is FULLY proven. The FACT of evolution *IS* proven and is, in fact, OBSERVABLE! The part that remains THEORETICAL is the part about RANDOM MUTATION and the exact interactions between various forms of radiation on the genetic structure of a life form. Evolution is no longer something that is open to *belief*. It happens! It is why different people have different skin color, it is why you and chimpanzees share 98% of your DNA in common. It is why wolves have thick fur but you can see your skin. Now please, DROP the subject and keep these forums clean. On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 4:19 PM, Imran Ali <[email protected]> wrote: We r beings who have the potential to encompass the whole of this universe within our intellect. Nartural selection, Darwins "Theory" of evolution, he did not call it fact. But I believe there may be some truth that also, but no proof. But that does not mean that Allah did not create us. I have questioned the same questions u have put forth, why my religion and not Christianity, thanks to rebellious teenage years, one questions his upbringing, every teenager does, if only to better understand 1 self. Truth of the matter is I do believe in the books, Torah, Sams, Gospel, but they no longer exist, and were written for that time period. Hinduism as it is now is complete fiction, makes very little sense, historically cannot be related with nor any other established way. Having said that it may have once held some truth, but changed over centuries by corrupt ppl. The quran is same around the world, 1 book which Allah promised to protect till when he takes it away again. Proof? read how Islamic empire got collapsed, not by the words of the Quran being changed but ppl dressing up as muslims and getting ppl to fight over misinterpritations of it. The promise was kept. On 2 Feb 2009, 8:43 PM, "Incognito" <[email protected]> wrote: Ok, I misread your e-mail. Must've been the part about Ala punishing everybody. Intelligence is on the eye of the beholder. All animals have certain level of intellinge and all have the potential to evolve to be as intelligent as we are without the help of a mistical force but purely by natural selection forces. Think of this, had your parents never taught you about Ala and Islam would you be punished by Ala for not practicing Islam? How do you know your religion is the true religion? Hindus, Christians, Jewish all believe their religion is their true religion. Did their gods come from the heavens and told them they were on the right religion ? No, their parents taught them that. And just like you they swear that their religion is the true one. Unfortunately very few people are able to reason that there is something logically wrong with these teachings. Somebody has to be wrong. I argue that all religions are wrong. On Feb 2, 2009, at 3:25 PM, Imran Ali <[email protected]> wrote: > Firstly I never said I hate Americans, they 2 r ppl, I love my humanity. I > don't like the viral sy... >> >> On 2 Feb 2009, 8:06 PM, "Incognito" <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Find you hate Americans, I get that. What else is knew. By the way, I do not >> believe in God of an... >> I almost wish there were an after life just so that I could see the faces of >> those terrorist that... On Feb 2, 2009, at 2:53 PM, Imran Ali <[email protected]> wrote: > Your perception of reality is native only to u. U government was asked to > produce evidence in time... > > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Android Discuss" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-discuss?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
