As a developer I want to develope on the same device that millions of consumers are using. Why would I waste my valuable time on a custom device? There is no money in it.
On Feb 17, 2009, at 12:51 PM, Vincent Wu <[email protected]> wrote: Al, let me explain this situation: It is not the consumer QiGi i6 you can get in stores next month. It is a special order DEV version of the same hardware. With a large order we can change things. For example, I am requesting a HVGA LCD right now and it is of course within their capability to do it. The look&feel may also be slightly different. And we can ask for more memory, for example. Again, I am only interested in brining more tools for dev/test, not directly for consumers. If someone wants to do that, I can help but I am not interested in doing it myself. On Feb 17, 11:47 am, Al Sutton <[email protected]> wrote: Quote from the Engadget page on the QiGi i6 (http://www.engadget.com/2009/02/17/hands-on-with-techfaiths-qigi-i6-i.... "Anyhow, let's just be straight about this: odds are you don't really want this phone, even if you think you do. The physical design feels one or two iterations behind, but the real problem stems from the fact that you're rocking QVGA resolution here; yes, granted, Android runs -- but in its default layout, it's clearly designed for a few more pixels both horizontally and vertically." I don't think there's going to be a lot of interest as is, but I wish you all the best with your efforts. Al. Vincent Wu wrote: No, it is a dev version of the TechFaith QiGi i6. Just like ADP1, it has unlocked and the developer can do anything with it. I am requesting a bigger screen at this time. They can do customizations like that, with a price. So if you can let me know what feature/price is most desirable in a dev phone, I will negotiate and get the deal done. On Feb 17, 10:45 am, Muthu Ramadoss <[email protected]> wrote: Is that the HTC Magic you are talking about? take care, Muthu Ramadoss. http://linkedin.com/in/tellibitz+91-9840348914http://androidrocks.in-Android Consulting. On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 9:40 PM, Imaging Luminary, LLC < [email protected]> wrote: Convincing for what? I am not asking you to pay $$$. I just want to see if I can get enough interests for a large order of 250+ sets. If there is any further risk, it is me, not you, who will handle the risk. The phone must be good for developers/testers otherwise I won't be interested in it.. Look. I am not a business man. This is truly an Android developer to Android developer talk. I won't expect any consumer/non-programmer get involved. You may have to buy your snake oil somewhere else. On Feb 17, 10:02 am, "Michael Martin - MM Agency" <mi...@mm- agency.com> wrote: Hmm, not a very convincing argument...do you have any snake oil for sale? -----Original Message----- From: Vincent Wu [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 8:00 AM To: Android Discuss Subject: [android-discuss] Re: ******New Model Android Phone for sale****** Of course I will have to show you the phone, have a few people test it, and write at least one full sized review. The company will provide english version of manual in a few days with other marketing materials including full size images. I want to first see if there are other programmers like me excited about a new Android device; if not I will never want to spend time on it any more. On Feb 17, 9:52 am, Al Sutton <[email protected]> wrote: Maybe you could post a link to the manual, some pictures, etc., or are you expecting people to stump up cash without knowing what they're getting beyond it being an Android 'phone? Al. Vincent Wu wrote: Yes I know that one it is called OPhone from Lenovo; it has no connection with the one I am referring to. Any phone order through me will have English manuals and the OS Image will be English too. On Feb 17, 9:37 am, george_c <[email protected]> wrote: Does this mean a phone sold in china will not have a working Android Market app when it is sent to US? If it is true my little operation will fail for sure. What happens if you travel to the States? China Mobile(carrier) will be selling the handsets & I assume with Android Market since China Mobile is/will be their partner there. Maybe more carrier partners in China, but none that I know. You travel to the USA with that phone & if your contract allows roaming and Market allows you to access it whilst roaming, yes. George On Feb 17, 6:46 am, george_c <[email protected]> wrote: Guys, it won't be possible. Alternative device manufacturers that don't have relationships with (Carrier+Google) won't be able to complete the Android Market payment fulfillment. Android is open enough and open for alternative device manufacturers to use. They will need an App Manager(some branded) for their devices and content other than Android Market(since AM will not be accessible to these subscribers). Hence expect the growth pattern for alternative marketplaces to surpass Android Market in global reach... till the day when Google Checkout is available globally and have convinced every person in the world to submit their personal details (who I am, how I pay, my habits, etc) to Google. For global reach you need local payment options and these are called alternative payments as each user is accustomed to in their local town or country. Combination of Google Checkout and carrier billing will work, but still handicaped. Not to mention that its a lot more difficult for a giant to enter local countries and offer payment services without a battle with local authorities and companies... Though this is another corporate/politics issue. George On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 1:50 PM, Al Sutton <[email protected] wrote: George, Going forward I can see Google only allowing Market on 'phones in regions where they have sorted out the payment method because I can't see them offering and maintaining two version of Market (one allowing pay-for apps and another not). As for how many territories they offer payment in, well, who knows. Al.. george_c wrote: A question to all developers: Do you think such devices that will start appearing more and more across the globe will have the Android Market client app and will allow its users to have access to the Android Market? George On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 11:30 AM, Muthu Ramadoss <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: Oh, right. The shipping and customs will probably cost more than the phone for India! take care, Muthu Ramadoss. http://linkedin.com/in/tellibitz+91-9840348914 http://androidrocks.in-AndroidConsulting. On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 2:32 PM, Cassius < [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: Remember shipping and customs when you buy from China. For example shipping and customs to ship an ADP1 from USA to Italy is over 90$! On Feb 17, 2009 9:54 AM, "Muthu Ramadoss" <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: If you can post the pictures, then probably people ... read more ยป --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Android Discuss" group. 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