Yup, 4B it is, my bad - S
On Mar 4, 10:04 am, Tote <[email protected]> wrote:
> Hi there,
>
> Your math is not correct, I'm afraid. First, there are already 4B
> phones worldwide - again, this is all phones smartphones included.
> Second, you correctly wrote that it's not only smartphones that Google
> counts on, but MIDs and other devices, too.
>
> Anyway, if there was no global recession I would have expected Android
> to outrun Apple by the end of 2009 already. There were so many
> announcement, but then nothing has happened.
>
> Regardless of this, my clear answer is Yes, it is worth investing time
> and effort in this technology.
>
> On Mar 4, 3:16 pm, Sri2 <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > jkk,
>
> > Google's moves are not always straightforward as they seem to be.
> > While world was thinking about them getting into wireless operator's
> > business when they participated in the C Block spectrum, it turned out
> > to be a classic game theory move forcing the competing bidders to end
> > up bidding higher only to open up the network and devices for the OS/
> > app developers - a classic case of winner's curse for Verizon.
>
> > Here's my take on android vs others, take it with a grain of salt.. My
> > read is that Android's purpose is to spur wider adoption of cloud
> > based services. The idea is to come up with a platform that will run
> > in many many mobile/fixed networks and many devices, so that the reach
> > for apps gets the widest audience possible. At some point in the
> > future, the broadband bandwidth constraint can be assumed to be a non
> > existent or a don't care, which means a platform with a wider reach
> > will have greater latitude to access cloud based service offerings.
> > It's a win-win for all ecosystem players - Device vendors, network
> > operators, 3PSW tool providers, app developers and cloud service
> > players. A wider reach will mean drop in prices of devices and
> > broadband service which is when the proverbial 'mass market' dynamic
> > will kick in. From a developers' perspective, wider reach is the holy
> > grail.
>
> > Simple math for reach is x% of y% of 3B - where 3B is the total
> > phones; x% is the % of smart phones and y is total % of android
> > phones. Apple has a wider reach today (17 mil iphones + iPod touch?),
> > but I expect the adoption curves crossing each other in the next 2
> > years..No guarantees with Google, but my read is that they are in this
> > for the longer run given their attachment to the cloud.
>
> > Sri
>
> > On Mar 2, 11:48 pm, jkk251 <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > I elected to develop for Android rather than iPhone for several
> > > reasons a few months ago, including the fact that it's open source,
> > > and not restricted to a single hardware company. PC vs Mac all over
> > > again.
>
> > > But a Google Trends search on the terms iPhone and [take your pick:
> > > Android, google phone, gphone...] shows that Android and its platforms
> > > remain out of public awareness. This is not surprising, with the
> > > relative strength of marketing campaigns mounted by carriers and by
> > > Apple for the iPhone, and for the Blackberry, and T-mobile's almost
> > > nonexistent marketing of the Google Phone G1. In fact, T-mobile's
> > > recent marketing on TV is for the Blackberry.
>
> > > I'm beginning to wonder if there is momentum here that will be
> > > difficult for Android to overcome. Many superior technologies have
> > > died the death of failure in the marketplace, despite the size of the
> > > company behind them. At some point, Google may just cut it's losses
> > > with this whole enterprise, as Microsoft did with many failed products
> > > over the years, leaving developer communities to count their losses.
> > > Sure, now Android is bigger than Google, being open source, targeted
> > > by many companies, etc etc. So was Linux, and it never dented
> > > Windows.
>
> > > Before I get too deep into Android development, I'm having the urge to
> > > pause for a bit, and see if Android is going to go anywhere. Where is
> > > Google's commitment? Are they distracted by their plethora of
> > > projects?
>
> > > Or am I just misunderstanding some big picture?
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