s/next/net On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 11:06 PM, Stoyan Damov <[email protected]> wrote: > On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 10:54 PM, Fred Grott <[email protected]> wrote: >> JIT is not register based I thought and that would be the reason for no JIT >> on chip process as the ANdorid VM is register based not stack based. >> >> There was a whole architecture dicsussion by Google when Android was first >> was announced about this.. >> > > Right, my point is that from what I've read on the next, Dalvik VM was > not needed at all, and its very existence is due to the fact that Sun > wouldn't let Google run java bytecode on Android. Whether the VM is or > isn't registered based is totally irrelevant. What good if Dalvik VM > is registered-based if it interprets code, where this code, if it were > bytecode could run like native code due to the java acceleration? > > Cheers > >> >> >> >> On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 2:42 PM, Stoyan Damov <[email protected]> >> wrote: >>> >>> Aha, maybe I wasn't clear enough. I very well understand that Android >>> runs Dalvik, and not Java bytecode, and from what I read on the net, >>> this was done to avoid some licensing issues/arguments with Sun. >>> >>> Here I'll put my question as bluntly as possible: >>> >>> If Google were not forced by Sun because of WHATEVER to NOT run java >>> bytecode on the Android, would it be WAY WAY faster for games, apps, >>> and the Android stack on top of Linux, which is also a Dalvik >>> bytecode, because of the java hardware acceleration? >>> >>> If the answer is yes, I then expect to hear what was that Google >>> couldn't agree on with Sun (although I don't expect to hear that from >>> Google Android engineers, but like I've said many times, Google is >>> f...@#ing DEAF, and you, Android engineers, are the only people who >>> actually listen to us)? >>> >>> I'm also interested to understand whether Google is planning to team >>> with hardware manufacturers (such as Qualcomm) and help them build >>> Dalvik hardware acceleration into future devices, so that Android >>> becomes faster and better? >>> >>> Thanks! >>> >>> On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 10:33 PM, Romain Guy <[email protected]> wrote: >>> > >>> > It doesn't matter whether there's a chip with Java hardware >>> > acceleration in the G1 because Android does not use Java bytecode, but >>> > Dalvik bytecode. >>> > >>> > -- >>> > Romain Guy >>> > Android framework engineer >>> > [email protected] >>> > >>> > Note: please don't send private questions to me, as I don't have time >>> > to provide private support. All such questions should be posted on >>> > public forums, where I and others can see and answer them >>> > >>> > > >>> > >>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >
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