Hi Sean, Thanks for the detailed investigation, and for the illuminating posts. I agree that Android Market/Google Checkout should have better support for Maestro and for checking account payments in general.
Can you also post the link to the bug that you have filed? I would like to vote for that too. Thanks Inder On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 3:02 AM, Sean Hodges <[email protected]> wrote: > > Inder, Al, > > I think there is a level of truth in what both of you are saying: > Maestro is an international service and is supported in the U.S. to a > limited capacity. For instance, I can walk up to an ATM in the U.S. > and take out money (in dollars of course!) using my Maestro card. > However, some retail stores do not let me use my card for POS > purchases, they usually explain this is because they do not have a > chip-and-pin reader in the store (although there may be more to it > than this). > > My last post describes the problem in slightly more detail, but > ultimately the solution might involve shifting to a more U.S. friendly > form of payment that is also supported by the U.K. banks. I'm looking > to how Apple and U.S. international stores achieve this, but any other > suggestions are welcome. > > I will update the bug reports and see if I can re-engage some interest > from Google support. This is really dragging on, but for many reasons > I really want the Android market to succeed in the U.K. and Europe. > > > Also, I'd like to just thank everyone for their input, I realise many > of you are based in the U.S. so this issue does not affect you as > significantly as it does for those of us in the U.K. - Hopefully if we > can come to a solution that works for everyone, and this thread has > been pretty valuable for me when trying to define that goal. > > > > > On Sat, Apr 4, 2009 at 5:12 PM, Inderjeet Singh <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> I still stand by my statement. The statement that you point to is >> fairly general and doesn't really mean much. Can you find me an online >> store that allows USD purchases using Maestro? >> >> Inder >> >> >> On Sat, Apr 4, 2009 at 12:50 AM, Al Sutton <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> I don't think your right. The UK part of the maestro website >>> (http://www.maestrocard.com/uk/) says; >>> >>> "Maestro is MasterCard International's lead debit brand and offers over 540 >>> million cardholders highly secure and convenient access to their current and >>> deposit accounts in over 100 countries across the world." >>> >>> Al. >>> >>> --- >>> >>> * Written an Android App? - List it at http://andappstore.com/ * >>> >>> ====== >>> Funky Android Limited is registered in England & Wales with the >>> company number 6741909. The registered head office is Kemp House, >>> 152-160 City Road, London, EC1V 2NX, UK. >>> >>> The views expressed in this email are those of the author and not >>> necessarily those of Funky Android Limited, it's associates, or it's >>> subsidiaries. >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: [email protected] >>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Inderjeet Singh >>> Sent: 04 April 2009 06:42 >>> To: [email protected] >>> Subject: [android-discuss] Re: Cannot pay for applications in UK market >>> >>> >>> AFAIK, UK Maestro is a domestic debit card. It can be used to make retail >>> purchases in USD, but is not allowed for Internet purchases. >>> The items that you have bought online are probably priced in GBP at the time >>> of the sale (I suspect that they show up as GBP purchases on your >>> credit-card statements). >>> >>> When you buy a USD good on Android market, the purchase is carried out in >>> USD, and hence it gets disallowed by Maestro. I agree that it would have >>> been better if Android Market converted it to GBP behind the scenes, but >>> that is not how it is at the moment. Changing it is also hard since Google >>> Checkout fixes a currency for a merchant and the merchant is not allowed to >>> post carts in a different currency. >>> >>> Inder >>> >>> >>> On Thu, Apr 2, 2009 at 7:09 AM, Sean Hodges <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>>> >>>> An update on the UK market payment problems: >>>> >>>> It's not looking good, so far Google's stance can be paraphrased as >>>> "UK Maestro debit cards cannot be used for transactions in US dollars, >>>> we'll look at making the error message clearer." >>>> http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/Android+Market/thread?tid=57912f >>>> 7eefae2e5f&hl=en&fid=57912f7eefae2e5f0004668f33a2ba91 >>>> >>>> Now I'm pretty sure Switch/Maestro is able to handle U.S. >>>> transactions. I've personally bought imported books and DVD's using >>>> the same card that I am trying to use with Google checkout for U.S. >>>> purchases. Paypal allow me to buy U.K. and U.S. products, and direct >>>> debit work for both as well (as long as Switch/Maestro is listed in >>>> the first place). Google Checkout lets me use my card for U.K. >>>> payments, but not U.S. ones. So the blame has to be placed on either >>>> the Google Checkout service or the Android Market software. >>>> >>>> I'm getting numerous people emailing me for updates on this situation, >>>> and I don't have any answers. I'm sure this issue will eventually be >>>> addressed, but I've had nothing to even suggest this might happen >>>> until other countries start complaining. I'm just not sure where to go >>>> from here; perhaps I should tell these people not to worry because >>>> Google will make the error message more obvious soon? >>>> >>>> In the meantime, there are still developers on this list arguing that >>>> poor sales are due to customers being fickle and tight-fisted... NO! >>>> IT'S BECAUSE WE CAN'T BUY YOUR APPS!!! >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Sat, Mar 21, 2009 at 9:56 AM, Sean Hodges >>>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> You're right, SlideME supports statistically more payment methods >>>>> than the android market. I was really just venting my frustration >>>>> because when I initially scanned that payment page I saw the Maestro >>>>> card symbol and assumed that meant it was supported. My mistake. For >>>>> the record, I'm planning to keep an eye on SlideME in the future, it >>> looks very promising. >>>>> >>>>> I've since received an email from the Klaxon developer stating that >>>>> his app is only available on the Android market, so looks like I may >>>>> have to wait out on google for this one, or just develop my own clone >>>>> when I get a few spare hours. >>>>> >>>>> Some good news is that the debit issue bug reports are being >>>>> investigated, so hopefully we will be able to buy apps on the Android >>> market soon! >>>>> >>>>> On Mar 20, 2009 6:21 PM, "george_c" <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 6:56 PM, Sean Hodges >>>>> <[email protected]> >>>>> wrote: > > > I shouldn't ... >>>>> >>>>> That is not true. https://slideme.org/payments These are what are >>>>> *switched on* at the moment: >>>>> MasterCard >>>>> Visa >>>>> Delta >>>>> Visa Electron >>>>> Amex >>>>> Discover >>>>> JCB >>>>> Diners >>>>> Bank Debit >>>>> Amazon Balance >>>>> (Don't see how SlideME offers less payment methods than the Android >>>>> Market as you mentioned >>>>> : >>>>> http://www.google.com/support/androidmarket/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answe >>>>> r=105916) The whole list of payment methods tagged as pending indeed >>>>> is not available. >>>>> Start stocking up the content and ask us what you want enabled and it >>>>> will be done. No point paying service fees for such payment options >>>>> if they are not in use. >>>>> So you know running such a huge list of payment methods is not free >>>>> for SlideME. We are offering it all to developers at cost, hence the >>>>> high payouts reaching even 98% to the developers along with managing >>>>> the taxes and sales/invoicing globally. One stop shop(managed from >>>>> SlideME) and you earn the lot. >>>>> Put simply, earn while you can! >>>>> George >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> > > Even > the Amazon payment scheme only works with >>>>> Visa/Mastercard/Delta. VERY > frustrating! >... >>>>> >>>>> > >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> > >>> >> >> > >> > > > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Android Discuss" group. 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