Maybe you can install the original if you can get it then attempt to install 
the update and see if that helps. Or just put one test app in the market, 
download it. Then update app in market and see if you can reproduce the 
problem. 

On Apr 9, 2009, at 5:20 PM, Stoyan Damov <[email protected]> wrote:


No, most are NOT. People, for @#$%'s sake, you've GOT to trust me on
that. I've downloaded an e-book the other day. I read it (it's a short
story), and the next day I got an update. I installed it curious to
see what was updated (was the reader itself). I ran it. It crashed
IMMEDIATELY after launch before showing any UI. I then uninstalled it,
and re-installed it, and it started and worked flawlessly.

I'm betting my ass that when Android updates an application it @#$%s
up something, e.g. permissions (damn me for NOT launching Eclipse when
this happened to see what exactly was the crash) and the app would
F/C. After a reinstall, everything works just fine.

What I described is what can be seen on MANY (and list is growing)
number of applications' descriptions on Android Market (that is
"please, uninstall before update").

I *do* believe people make bugs (and so do I), and that there are some
very poorly developed apps on Market, but this *particular* crash
immediately after an update is a Google bug. I know it. I KNOW it. I
@#$%ING KNOW IT!

I'm just waiting for it to happen again with another app, and me
having Eclipse around.

Cheers

On Thu, Apr 9, 2009 at 6:50 AM, Mattaku Betsujin
<[email protected]> wrote:
I think a lot of the comments are junk. However, I think the Force Close
ones are real. On Android, the foreground app shouldn't be FC'ed if there
are lots of background activities.

On Wed, Apr 8, 2009 at 9:52 AM, Ivan Soto <[email protected]> wrote:

We really need something like 'Report abuse" or "Inaccurate"
I try a lot of applications that run perfectly but I bet some people with
a lot of background applications running will obviously have problems with
the Force Close thing, they usually just go to the market and give 1star for
that.
I would love to report that as inaccurate, because that is just not spam.
Ivan Soto Fernandez
Web Developer
http://ivansotof.com



On Wed, Apr 8, 2009 at 10:03 AM, Eric Mill <[email protected]> wrote:

I've written on this list a couple times about the deplorable state of
Android Market comment threads.  It has gotten better than it used to
be, though, I think the "Report as Spam" option has made an impact.

You're not going to get people to change the way they express
themselves about how they feel about your app, though.  YouTube has
played with their comment system numerous times, but the comment
threads are still a gutter.  It's just the audience and the culture.
Blocking out basic curse words just goads people to get around the
filter.

Like I said though, I think it's improved, I'm not seeing the same
level of vindictiveness and bile that was there in the winter.  It's
just going to take some more time, and it's going to have to come from
the community.

-- Eric

On Wed, Apr 8, 2009 at 10:47 AM, Ivan Soto <[email protected]> wrote:
And yet no word from Google. Although, I can say that I've seen some
kind of
moderation. (I guess)
I haven't seen a lot of comments like
"your app rocks. 5 starss... contact me [email protected]"
Which was a big issue before. Still, it needs a lot of improvement.


Ivan Soto Fernandez
Web Developer
http://ivansotof.com


On Wed, Apr 8, 2009 at 8:40 AM, Sean Hodges
<[email protected]>
wrote:

>From my experience, auto filters have limited effectiveness, though
definitely better than nothing at all.

Ideally, there would be a "Report Abuse" button that acts similar to
the spam feature, and in both cases if a Google account is reported a
number of times it is reviewed by market support for inappropriate
activity (I'm not sure if this is already the case for the spam
feature).

If a malicious user starts picking on another by reporting all their
comments, the data from this can be used to review the reporter's
account instead... People abusing the system should get a warning
followed by a ban on the market, or some similar course of action.

Of course, if this is too much to implement, an auto-filter should
definitely be considered as an alternative. There are lots of reports
requesting this in the market forum.



On Wed, Apr 8, 2009 at 3:29 PM, [email protected]
<[email protected]> wrote:

Completely agree. I'm amazed there isn't an auto-filter going on -
it
would be easy to catch obvious swear words like the ones you quote
above.

When I've seen abusive comments, the poster usually tries to
disguise
the swear words by changing a letter or by using asterisks instead,
because of fear of being moderated I guess.

But it looks like the moderating is not happening at all.



On Apr 8, 2:48 pm, mask <[email protected]> wrote:
This is an excerpt from an application comment:

"This stupid fucking shit isn't downloading/installing! What a
waste
sherelle 2009-04-08 04:00:44"

As a developer, I would like to know when is Google going to start
moderating such illiterate and ignorant people from commenting on
an
issue developer has no control. At least, the curse words should be
removed or 'moderated' for keeping the developer community sane.
Keep
in mind, in the long run its the developers and their application
that
will eventually sell and market android platform.

As a developer, all ignorant and abusive comments are least
productive. Also Google's inaction in removing abusive comments are
totally unacceptable.

As a developer, I request Google to take immediate action by
removing
comments which are abusive or totally remove commenting but keep
the
star rating until Google provides a complete solution.






















      


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