I think you first told us to f off about things like that in the late 1700s :). We don't want to take them totally away, just suggest where and how you should use them in order to take into account the views of others. Al.
--- * Written an Android App? - List it at http://andappstore.com/ * ====== Funky Android Limited is registered in England & Wales with the company number 6741909. The registered head office is Kemp House, 152-160 City Road, London, EC1V 2NX, UK. The views expressed in this email are those of the author and not necessarily those of Funky Android Limited, it's associates, or it's subsidiaries. _____ From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Mattaku Betsujin Sent: 10 April 2009 07:59 To: [email protected] Subject: [android-discuss] Re: Unacceptable and abusive comments needs immediate solution from Google Profanity and guns are the two pillars of American freedom. How dare you Brits take that away from us! On Thu, Apr 9, 2009 at 11:49 PM, Al Sutton <[email protected]> wrote: Pd, Many countries prevent total freedom speech in law. Even in the UK (where market is fully operational) there are several laws which prevent defamation, slander, racial hatred comments, etc. Someone has to set what's considered acceptable by the masses, and if you choose to ignore that in private conversation that's one thing, but as we're discussing a worldwide public forum which I see as a different problem. I'm sure many journalists let loose with the odd profanity now and again, but you see very few (if any) of them do it when they're broadcasting. I would *never* dream of telling you what to say. I'd only suggest the way that you phrase it that doesn't immediately offend some parts of the population. Al. --- * Written an Android App? - List it at http://andappstore.com/ * ====== Funky Android Limited is registered in England & Wales with the company number 6741909. The registered head office is Kemp House, 152-160 City Road, London, EC1V 2NX, UK. The views expressed in this email are those of the author and not necessarily those of Funky Android Limited, it's associates, or it's subsidiaries. -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Pd Sent: 09 April 2009 21:35 To: [email protected] Subject: [android-discuss] Re: Unacceptable and abusive comments needs immediate solution from Google I see this the other way around. Have you heard how the younger generation speak? Sometimes I don't understand what they are saying, curse words and all. If anyone needs protecting its me :-) Live and let live, that's what I say. People should have the right to express themselves. Too many "Political Correctness" evangelists have had their way for far too long. As an example you now have to say chalk board because anything else is seemed derogatory. Please don't tell me what I can and can't say and I won't tell you what you can do or say :-) Profanity is frowned upon by some but it is now very common and a way of life for some. Not too long ago I saw a big billboard advertisement. It had a message saying "Some some people are gay, Get over it!". I guess a similar message could be used here. "Some people swear, get over it!" You can see a picture of one here: http://www.stonewall.org.uk/education_for_all/news/current_news/2043.asp Pd. Al Sutton wrote: > Curse words are offensive to a large amount of the population and so > having curse words in a comment is likely to reduce it's appeal to the mass market. > > > It only takes one or two stories about young children playing on their > parents 'phones, starting market, and turning to their parents and > saying "what does 'This application is bulls*** and sucks c**k' mean?" > and you'll find that it suddenly becomes demonised and people go out > of their way to avoid it. > > Personally I find the user of curse words the sign of a weak argument > where someone is trying to cause offense to distract from their lack of facts. > I've never found an argument not about curse words that was > strengthened by their use and so I avoid using them because I have no > interest in doing something I know a lot of people find immediately offensive. > > Al. > > --- > > * Written an Android App? - List it at http://andappstore.com/ * > > ====== > Funky Android Limited is registered in England & Wales with the > company number 6741909. The registered head office is Kemp House, > 152-160 City Road, London, EC1V 2NX, UK. > > The views expressed in this email are those of the author and not > necessarily those of Funky Android Limited, it's associates, or it's > subsidiaries. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Andreas > Kostyrka > Sent: 09 April 2009 15:21 > To: [email protected] > Cc: [email protected] > Subject: [android-discuss] Re: Unacceptable and abusive comments needs > immediate solution from Google > > > Am Wed, 8 Apr 2009 18:51:36 -0700 (PDT) schrieb mask > <[email protected]>: > > What's wrong with curse words? The highly unfunny "protect the kids" > bullshit (curse word!!! cover your eyes!!!) does not have anything to > do with protecting kids. > > One of the things that I remember from my time as a kid is, when I > learned German in kindergarten, that this started by learning a fair > share of curse words; nothing as cruel as some kids working their > frustration on the new kids on the block so to say. > > Hint: kids don't go insane when they hear curse words. Nor do they run > amok because they play some "killing game" on their Xbox. Nor do kids > go crazy when you let them surf the unfiltered Internet. (Hint: a > sensible configured ad/javascript filter makes the risk that a kid see > something indecent rather small, and that's what parents are for, to > explain and show guidance.) > > Sorry, but this crusade to scrub the Internet clean of anything > somebody might object too is only dangerous, as it places > infrastructure in place so that governments can censure what they do > not like. But guess the civil rights of 300 millions citizens are way > less important than the potential that some child might get hurt. > Wonder if that is so, why do the same governments send our military > forces into war zones? (I mean, some of these are teenagers, some are > fathers, all are sons, some are brothers, husbands. Guess their lives > are not that > important.) > > Sorry, but this "political correctness" thing raises my blood pressure > rather rapidly. > > And no, I do not condone using bad language and all the other bad > things, but I condone even less people trying to filter and censure > that bad behaviour. > > Andreas > > > >> I think most would agree that the comments are good to provide >> feedback. The issue is with using abusive curse words, it does not >> help google, developer or the users. It just shows that the user does >> not know how to communicate and he is frustrated. He is frustrated >> because the app is not downloading after he has made a purchase. This >> does not justify the use of curse word . I think we all expect >> certain amount of decency in the market place because even kids visit >> it and other civilized people visit it as well. Market place comments >> is not a discussion board nor frustration board. >> >> On Apr 9, 12:09 am, Incognito <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> I would not remove the comment system. Notice that he is leting you >>> know there was a problem with the download. Granted, it is not your >>> fault and he could have used better language but at least he took >>> the time to let you know his frustration. I think is better to ask >>> google to fix the download problem. >>> >>> On Apr 8, 2009, at 9:48 AM, mask <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> This is an excerpt from an application comment: >>> >>> "This stupid fucking shit isn't downloading/installing! What a waste >>> sherelle 2009-04-08 04:00:44" >>> >>> As a developer, I would like to know when is Google going to start >>> moderating such illiterate and ignorant people from commenting on an >>> issue developer has no control. At least, the curse words should be >>> removed or 'moderated' for keeping the developer community sane. >>> Keep in mind, in the long run its the developers and their >>> application that will eventually sell and market android platform. >>> >>> As a developer, all ignorant and abusive comments are least >>> productive. Also Google's inaction in removing abusive comments are >>> totally unacceptable. >>> >>> As a developer, I request Google to take immediate action by >>> removing comments which are abusive or totally remove commenting but >>> keep the star rating until Google provides a complete solution. >>> > > > > > > > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Android Discuss" group. 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