Thanks Mariano. I will add that to the "help page" of my app (when such a page is finally created on a bright sunny day :-)
On Sat, Apr 11, 2009 at 4:24 AM, Mariano Kamp <[email protected]>wrote: > Mattaku, > do you know Log Collector ( > http://www.cyrket.com/package/com.twofortyfouram.logcollector)? You user > can install it and mail you the log. > > Cheers, > Mariano > > > > On Fri, Apr 10, 2009 at 8:56 AM, Mattaku Betsujin < > [email protected]> wrote: > >> Not sure if this is meaningful statistics .... >> >> I have received 1 person reporting that my app doesn't work after >> updating. He tried uninstalling and reinstalling and the app still doesn't >> work. >> >> This is 1 out of about 10,000 people who downloaded my app. I have pushed >> about 15 updates in 8 weeks so I assumed there have been at least 10,000 >> attempts of updating. >> >> To me, 0.01% is certainly not widespread. But again, if Google could fix >> this I certainly wouldn't mind :-) >> >> On Thu, Apr 9, 2009 at 8:22 PM, Incognito <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> >>> >>> Hahahaha. Pretty funny. It most feel like people throwing stones at you >>> and the e-mail below is just the involuntary reflex to raise your hands to >>> shield yourself. >>> >>> On Apr 9, 2009, at 8:09 PM, Mark Murphy <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> >>> Stoyan Damov wrote: >>> Especially when >>> Google are so strongly supported by so many zealots who think Google >>> devs can't make bugs and it's all the developers' fault. >>> >>> Since I suspect that's aimed in my general direction, let me be clear: >>> >>> Google developers can "make bugs". Considering how many they have >>> pointed out on these lists, I suspect they'd be the first to tell you >>> that they "make bugs". >>> >>> You have reported several bugs on these lists. As I recall, for these, >>> you indicated, in no uncertain terms, that if they affected you, they >>> must affect everyone, and that they are clearly bugs in Android proper >>> with no other possible cause. >>> >>> I don't recall in any of those situations questioning whether the >>> symptoms were real. I asked for more evidence on the claims that they >>> affect everyone, that they were unequivocally bugs in Android proper, >>> plus for ways to reproduce the problems. The latter is the most >>> important, because no matter how the symptoms are caused, without >>> reproducible scenarios, fixing them is well nigh impossible. >>> >>> In some cases (e.g., force-close-after-update), such evidence has >>> arrived, at least on the first two points. If we're lucky, the same >>> thing that causes this problem is what causes the similar force-close >>> triggered by changes to the AndroidManifest.xml file, that somebody >>> reported, I reproduced, and I opened an issue for. I doubt they're the >>> same thing, but one can only hope, since reproducing >>> force-close-after-update is obviously difficult. >>> >>> In some cases (e.g., "TERRIBLE BUG"), evidence definitely points to a >>> bug in the build tools, though no evidence has arrived that indicates it >>> is currently affecting every Android developer. And, IIRC, we still >>> don't have a reproducible test case. >>> >>> In some cases (e.g., takes-15-seconds-to-pick-up), we have neither >>> evidence of a widespread phenomenon nor conclusive evidence of a purely >>> OS problem. In this specific case, I'm still backing my theory that it's >>> out-of-spec hardware that is reacting poorly with a new driver in RC33. >>> Heck, if I were HTC, I'd buy your phone off of you, just to have a >>> sample of the problem on hand. Alas, I am not HTC, nor do I play HTC on >>> TV. >>> >>> If I'm a zealot for asking for evidence to back up sweeping claims and >>> broad generalizations, and for hoping for more civil discourse than >>> sometimes is seen on these lists, then I'm comfortable with that. >>> >>> -- >>> Mark Murphy (a Commons Guy) >>> http://commonsware.com | http://twitter.com/commonsguy >>> >>> Android App Developer Books: http://commonsware.com/books.html >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> > > > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Android Discuss" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/android-discuss?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
