As a developer and as a qualified personal trainer/sports therapist I would
say that all that would be required is a simple disclaimer along the lines
of

Do not undertake excercise without consulting with a doctor/physician.
Do not undertake exercise without learning the correct technique
Incorrect technique during exercise/resistance training could result in
injury.
This software is for general guidance and the developer will not be liable
for any injury caused as a result of improper use of the information given.

This with the option for the user to agree or not should be sufficient.

When I was actively working as a trainer/sports therapist I did have
insurance, but that was more for the therapy side as the likelyhood of
injuring someone during deep tissue massage was greater.

If your software is going to teach the user "how" to carry out the exercise,
then it must do so clearly and obviously properly, if someone sues due to
your software and it can de demonstrated that your software demonstrates the
exercise properly but the user failed to follow the instructions, I can't
see the blame being placed with you.

If your software is purely determining the set/rep ranges for different
types of training (endurance/hypertrophy/strength) and the types of
exercises to carry out but without any guidance on how to perform the
exercise the I cannot see you being held liable.

Will be interesting to see where Apple get with their patents, this type of
software is nothing new and the calculation techniques are nothing new and
well known to trainers, also putting the two together is nothing new.  But
just wait, before we know it Apple will have invented Arnold
Schwartzenegger.

On May 11, 2009 6:45 PM, "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
wrote:


Hey Folks - new guy alert...

Several years ago I developed a desktop application for weight
training that would estimate how many sets/reps/weight to use given
either a legitimate 1 repetition maximum or an estimated one (I
included a tool to estimate a 1 rep max from a set of an exercise done
for 2 through 20 reps).

I copyrighted the code etc etc.

I contacted several lawyers about my liability even though I had
created an LLC to "shield" my personal assets. Every one of the
lawyers said it was easy to get a judge to throw out the LLC shield
and that I needed to get product liability insurance. Every one of
them stated that I needed it so that if anyone tried to sue b/c they
got injured during a workout, the insurance companies lawyers would
show up instead of me having to pay one or more by the hour to fight
the case.

I had multiple connections in the NBA and was given a couple of
companies to call that dealt specifically with fitness related
insurance. Guess what?...wait for it...NO ONE in the insurance
business would even consider giving me an estimate - I tried talking
to every contact I was given over a 6 month period...zip, zero, nada
deal making, even though I had a M.S. Degree in exercise physiology,
was a NCAA Division I Strength and Conditioning Coach, & had a degree
in computer science. That was several years ago.

A few months ago Apple (yes, Steve Jobs/Woz etc Apple) applied for
patents on...wait for it...wait for it...strength training software
for the iPhone. Two-thirds of the functionality was identical to what
my application did. I'm not suggesting that they stole anything b/c
I'm pretty sure they didn't (IBM is working on similar stuff too). My
post boils down to this one question (I know, finally right?):

How does a developer go about shielding his/herself from litigious
revenge from a disgruntled user? I'd love to re-write the app to live
in the android environment, but I don't want to do all the work and
end up in a legal fight because some meat-head (I can say that, I am a
meat head too) drops a plate on his toe and blames my application for
it.

Please don't say write a good EULA - all 3 lawyers I consulted with
said the EULA I had for the app was the best they'd seen, but that a
decent lawyer could get past just about any EULA.

Help Me Obi Android Kenobi's, your my only hope...


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