Enough about patents, seriously, the technical staff can't discuss it
(or read it) and it will end up where the only people reading this
list are outsourced support techs.

Instead of babbling about "omg apple" try creating a multitouch
proposal that meets the requirements. Then, once you have met ALL the
requirements in a reasonable way, if you are right, they'll say
"sorry, no MT" and you can start back up with the conspiracy theories.

On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 2:26 PM, RK<[email protected]> wrote:
>
> I do not believe being ignorant of existing patents and patent law
> would make for a good defense against a patent violation suit. I would
> like to think exploring the existing patent for design and function
> flaws that can be corrected, enhanced and improved would be a good
> practice. It also would make a great guideline for methods NOT to use,
> forcing a more direct approach to achieving the same result with new
> and more efficient technology.
>
> You need to be well informed to be able to complete a project well,
> why shoot yourself in the foot by ignoring other strides and
> advancements.
>
> Too bad Google is afraid of Apple, otherwise we might actually see
> some real innovation.
>
> On Jul 14, 7:06 pm, Jean-Baptiste Queru <[email protected]> wrote:
>> I actually have no visibility over any kind of timeframe. Google's
>> primary motivation to add such support in the framework would be for a
>> Google-Experience device to be planned with the appropriate hardware,
>> and even then I have no idea what would happen. Since my personal role
>> is very far downstream from such considerations I don't know anything
>> at all about future hardware (to give you an idea, I've barely ever
>> touched an HTC magic, let alone anything newer, and I do all my work
>> on a pair of HTC dreams).
>>
>> At a technical level (which I'm a lot more comfortable with) I doubt
>> that the kernel has very much to do with that - I'd be surprised if it
>> did more than route a few bytes from a driver to user-land. I'd guess
>> that the bulk of the work would be to actually use the extra
>> information in the various applications.
>>
>> JBQ
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 6:53 PM, MotoVB<[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> > Dear JBQ:
>> >    Will you add the multitouch feature to android after linux kernel
>> > supporting the multitouch input? If yes, any schedule? Our most
>> > concern is  if the official android framework will support to
>> > multitouch, our work is not so valuable.
>>
>> > On Jul 15, 6:45 am, Jean-Baptiste Queru <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >> *facepalm*
>>
>> >> I very explicitly did not want a link to a patent, and you just did
>> >> very precisely the exact kind of thing I was asking people to not do.
>>
>> >> I was looking for a link to the multitouch-related Google announcement
>> >> you mentioned, so that I could go smack whoever would have said what
>> >> you claim they said.
>>
>> >> JBQ
>>
>> >> On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 3:31 PM, Anton Melser<[email protected]> 
>> >> wrote:
>>
>> >> > 2009/7/14 Jean-Baptiste Queru <[email protected]>:
>>
>> >> >> -Do you have a quote for this? (if yes, please send it to me in 
>> >> >> private).
>>
>> >> >> -Please don't discuss specific patents on this list (or any other
>> >> >> official Android list). Thanks.
>>
>> >> > Terribly sorry. I have quite inadvertently touched what appears to be
>> >> > a raw nerve (my original intent was genuine). A simple google reveals
>> >> > that at least I didn't dream it...
>> >> > apple google patent multi touch
>> >> > But sorry. I realise that discussing such matters is inappropriate.
>> >> > Please accept my excuses.
>> >> > A+
>> >> > Anton
>>
>> >> >> On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 9:36 AM, Anton Melser<[email protected]> 
>> >> >> wrote:
>>
>> >> >>> I seem to remember Google announcing they wouldn't develop multi-touch
>> >> >>> capabilities as Apple have patents on "the technology". Sure, it
>> >> >>> existed many years before Apple "invented" it, but that has never
>> >> >>> stopped large corps from threatening to sue for patents acquired
>> >> >>> illegally. I'd forget about it.
>> >> >>> Cheers
>> >> >>> Anton
>>
>> >> --
>> >> Jean-Baptiste M. "JBQ" Queru
>> >> Android Engineer, Google.
>>
>> >> Questions sent directly to me that have no reason for being private
>> >> will likely get ignored or forwarded to a public forum with no further
>> >> warning.- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> >> - Show quoted text -
>>
>> --
>> Jean-Baptiste M. "JBQ" Queru
>> Android Engineer, Google.
>>
>> Questions sent directly to me that have no reason for being private
>> will likely get ignored or forwarded to a public forum with no further
>> warning.
>
> >
>

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