No worries Tom, I understood you weren't specially aiming anything at me.

One of my concerns of the current scheme is patch migration. With donut, 
éclair, and flan having feature fall overs and master taking commits as well it 
could easily end up with checkins' and merges to several branches just for one 
piece of code, so although it may be great now it could be a beast to tame in 
the future.

The Android dev blog does seem a bit underutilised, but I agree it would have 
been a great way to clarify things at an earlier date.

Al.

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From: [email protected] 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Tom Gibara
Sent: 27 July 2009 09:57
To: [email protected]
Subject: [android-discuss] Re: What is Donut?


Just to be clear, my grumpiness wasn't aimed at your effort to clarify things, 
but at the rumour mill that makes it necessary - having just read my post, that 
may not have been clear.

Basically, I think the source tree should be managed in whatever way is most 
efficient for the team doing the development and which establishes android as a 
sustainable OS project. I don't think PR concerns should be allowed to impinge 
on that decision.

Perhaps if short, timely clarifications could be posted on the Android 
developer blog, that might help to counteract the spread of incorrect 
information (or perhaps not - King Canute comes to mind).

Tom.




On Jul 27, 2009 8:47 AM, "Al Sutton" 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

I think the biggest confusion is that given the Google IO demo and the 
statements from Andy Rubin any people assumed that the donut release feature 
set had been fixed, and so the donut tree was working towards that feature set.



What's come to light is that the donut release feature set hasn't been fixed, 
and so donut is more a dev tree than an alpha, beta, or rc quality tree at the 
moment.



The main reason the Google guys have got involved is some  (very useful) 
expectation management. The more stories that circulate about multi-touch and 
other candidate features in donut the more likely consumers will hear them and 
expect those features, and when they don't arrive consumers will get 
disappointed. If Google PR had got onto people like engadget when they 
published this 
http://www.engadget.com/2009/05/27/android-2-0-donut-features-demoed-at-google-i-o/
 nearly two months ago the donut == 2.0 mistake boulder wouldn't have got so 
much momentum.



My suggestion for tackling it would be run the trees in a similar way to 
cupcake appeared in the open source tree; that is create an éclair tree when 
the éclair release feature set is fixed, and once the feature set is fixed the 
éclair tree only contains the work done in implementing it, that way éclair 
tree == éclair release (once its' done), the head of the tree can keep all the 
latest dev work in it, and the confusion is minimised.



Al.



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From: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> 
[mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>]
 On Behalf Of Tom Gibara
Sent: 27 July 2009 08:26

To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> 
Subject: [android-discuss] Re: What is Donut?



Sorry if this sounds a bit grumpy (I've been up since 3am) but:

    1) How is this different from what one might sensibly expect as a 
developer? I appreciate tha...


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