indeed, its either feature freeze or not release.
IMHO that's a law of nature in IT every coder will learn once in his
life. most of the times the hard way.
(and it even rhymes ;) )

as for "leading android distro" currently that depends on how you
define leading.
if by "leading distro" you mean pre-installed on devices available in
the TelCo Shop around the corner, no way.
if you mean leading as "used by everyone who knows how to plug in a
usb cable and read a certain website", that wouldn't be the first
time, at least for anything htc related. the bacon Mark sees flying by
might well have xda-developers painted on his rear wings. reflashing
your android handset seems to be an astonishingly common place
procedure these days.

somehow android feels a bit like unbuntu in case of distro remixing to
me. which is good.



On Aug 12, 2:42 pm, Mark Murphy <[email protected]> wrote:
> Al Sutton wrote:
> > Switch b.android.com to Grid view, then change the Rows setting from
> > none to "Stars", then click update.
>
> Hey, that's pretty slick.
>
> So, getting back to 6th-starred complaint:
>
> > I would have to say given that the 6th most starred issue in the
> > Google Android's bug database had a perfectly working patch submitted
> > from the community and it's been stated that it won't possibly be
> > included even in eclair, Android isn't what most of us think of when
> > we think of an open source project.
>
> Android isn't what you may think of in terms of an open source project,
> but this hopefully isn't the reason.
>
> All open source projects bigger than breadbox have a point of feature
> freeze, heading to a release. This appears to be even more prevalent
> among open source operating systems.
>
> Android exacerbates this situation in two ways:
>
> 1. It is aimed pretty much exclusively at consumer electronics. Note my
> use of "aimed" -- garden-variety PCs might *run* Android, but that's not
>  the *aim*. AFAICT, consumer electronics has a longer freeze period,
> simply for manufacturing reasons. Any time you switch from bits to
> atoms, things slow down. I know of Android handsets, not yet released,
> that froze for manufacturing a couple of months ago.
>
> 2. The fact that we find out about the timetables on freezes after the
> fact and via comments attached to one issue out of a couple thousand
> doesn't exactly help the whole transparency thing.
>
> The patch in question was submitted two weeks ago. Either Android
> donut/eclair was frozen at that point, or Jeff Sharkey (who people on
> that issue seem to not realize *is* a Googler) wasn't able to find
> somebody with the time to do all of the security checks before the
> freeze came into place. As they say, shit happens.
>
> This is not significantly different than somebody proposing a new
> package be added to Ubuntu Karmic after their freeze, except that the
> freeze period is longer, indeterminate in length, and obscurely noted.
>
> Also, note that the underlying issue (FLAC support) might be solved by
> another means, as Mr. Nelissen notes in the one Gerrit entry:
>
> https://review.source.android.com/#change,10910
>
> > I just hope the attitude of "stop asking for something and submit a
> > patch" will stop. Patch or no, it doesn't matter. There's no community
> > involvement at the platform level.
>
> That's a fair assessment. Much of the infrastructure is in place (e.g.,
> Gerrit). However, as with any other open source project,
> community-contributed patches only get integrated in the master repo if
> one of the following is true:
>
> 1. It scratches an itch of a core contributor, who then takes it upon
> herself to do what's needed to incorporate the patch (testing, security
> checks, etc).
>
> 2. There are core contributors whose mission is simply to process
> community contributions, or at least will take the time to process
> community contributions even if that is not their sole responsibility.
>
> Right now, Android appears to lack #2, and #1 is a hit-or-miss
> proposition. The answer eventually needs to be #2, but that requires
> management buy-in, staffing increases (or roadmap curtailment to free up
> staff time), etc.
>
> > I think it's only a matter of time as Google ignores the Apps on SD
> > card feature until a different Android repository becomes the leading
> > Android distribution.
>
> This is theoretically possible. I suspect I will see a winged side of
> bacon fly by my window first, though.
>
> If you're talking about a partial fork -- more community contributions
> plus porting all the enhancements made to the original Android -- that's
> a huge chunk of work, requiring a huge chunk of developers. If you're
> talking about a total fork, the forked project will wind up ahead of
> Android in some areas (reflecting the itches of the fork founders) and
> behind on others (where Android continues engineering work but its
> capabilities are not ported).
>
> And, in either scenario, the project either needs device manufacturers
> to start using the fork *or* continued good luck in rooting/flashing
> alternative firmware onto existing Android devices. Otherwise, it's a
> fork with no point.
>
> --
> Mark Murphy (a Commons 
> Guy)http://commonsware.com|http://twitter.com/commonsguy
>
> Android 1.5 Programming Books:http://commonsware.com/books.html
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