Question is there a doc explaining what devices have market and what do
devices do not?  I know OPhone might not have as compared to other Google'
devices in china..

On Sun, Aug 30, 2009 at 11:11 AM, Al Sutton <[email protected]> wrote:

>
> One of the biggest problems we at AndAppStore have at the moment with
> Google is that they seem to be treating app distribution and licensing as an
> add-on as opposed to making it an open part of the OS. They currently don't
> share any details of how to enable or use the existing current copy
> protection scheme (so developers and app directories can't use it), and
> Market uses APIs which are only available to apps signed by a specific key
> which, again, 3rd parties don't have access to.
>
> We'd like to see an accepted licensing standard which will work all Android
> devices that can be used by third parties without the need to go through
> Market. To try and push this along several months ago we offered to hand
> over all the details of our licensing system to Google but met with a
> "thanks, but no thanks, we're working on our own system" kind of response,
> which led us to believe there will be an improvement at some point, but it's
> not going to work on all Android devices (because not all devices have
> Market).
>
> Hopefully, someday, we'll see an improvement to the situation and there
> will be one licensing system which can be used by any app directory or
> developer as they wish.
>
> Al.
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] [mailto:
> [email protected]] On Behalf Of david
> Sent: 30 August 2009 15:52
> To: Android Discuss
> Subject: [android-discuss] Re: Paid App Protection, a problem of the whole
> Android ecosphere
>
>
>
>
> Thanks Mark for the quick response. So you suggest to move away from
> the Android Market and use third party app stores like AndAppStore and
> SlideME? This leads me to my next question: Will the Android Market
> support a copy protection like the "SlideLock" of SlideME in the near
> future? Because as a developer of Android apps I don't want to invest
> too much time into copy protecting my apps by myself, if a general
> solution could solve this. I know that there are many high quality
> apps on other operation systems circulating, but they invest a lot of
> time in re-inventing the wheel over and over by enhancing their copy
> protection algos. On the mobile device we're somehow limited in
> usability compared to the desktop apps as well. It's just a big hurdle
> to let the user enter endless license keys or something similar. Do
> you think this will enhance the user experience of Android powered
> devices? I fear not. IMHO, if Google encourages developers to leverage
> the  Android OS with competitions like the ADC, they should also
> invest a little bit into helping developers to monetize their apps
> later and not spending too much time thinking about copy protection.
>
>
>
>
> On Aug 30, 10:08 am, Al Sutton <[email protected]> wrote:
> > The AndAppStore scheme isn't limited to AndAppStore and can be used by
> apps made available via Googles Market, SlideME, etc. if you want.
> >
> > You can find more info athttp://
> andappstore.com/AndroidApplications/licensing.jsp
> >
> > Al.
> >
> > --
> >
> > * Written an Android App? - List it athttp://andappstore.com/*
> >
> > ======
> > Funky Android Limited is registered in England & Wales with the
> > company number  6741909. The registered head office is Kemp House,
> > 152-160 City Road, London,  EC1V 2NX, UK.
> >
> > The views expressed in this email are those of the author and not
> > necessarily those of Funky Android Limited, it's associates, or it's
> > subsidiaries.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [email protected] [mailto:
> [email protected]] On Behalf Of Mark Murphy
> > Sent: 29 August 2009 21:31
> > To: [email protected]
> > Subject: [android-discuss] Re: Paid App Protection, a problem of the
> whole Android ecosphere
> >
> > david wrote:
> > > Otherwise this is a big problem for the whole Android ecosphere as we
> > > won't see many high quality apps popping up.
> >
> > Application developers are welcome to use third-party DRM solutions.
> > AndAppStore and SlideME each have one, IIRC, and there are probably
> > others. Nobody is pointing a gun at your head to force you to use the
> > one in the Android Market...which is good, since the Android Market DRM
> > will not work in other markets.
> >
> > Moreover, your assumption that ineffective copy protection means "we
> > won't see many high quality apps" seems to fly in the face of the
> > high-quality apps available for a range of operating systems (desktop
> > and mobile) that do not have any form of copy protection by intent.
> >
> > --
> > Mark Murphy (a Commons Guy)http://commonsware.com|
> http://twitter.com/commonsguy
> >
> > Android Development Wiki:http://wiki.andmob.org
>
>
> >
>

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