Also, you'll still be able to use the apps, Cyanogen just can't distribute
them.  So you'll have to go through an extra step of the process of backing
up your old phone.
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On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 3:51 PM, Andrew Hays <[email protected]> wrote:

> lbcoder, on 90% of things that you've ever said I must say that I've
> disagreed with you whole-heartedly.
>
> This is not one of those situations.  I believe that you are exactly
> right.  These apps are provided by Google to GOOGLE's Android OS, it's not
> part of the OS itself, and it's not as if Google is just willing to give
> them away all willy-nilly-like.
>
> Also, no offense to you, Joe, but I'm not sure Google really cares if
> that's your opinion.  They'll probably just look at it and go "Oh, another
> freetard that doesn't understand how the Open Source policy works.  Well,
> let them move on."
>
> CyanogenMod has accepted these terms and put up with it, so should everyone
> else.
>
> Sorry if I seem a bit rude, this is just the umpteenth post on this that
> I've read, and you're pretty much all wrong.
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> On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 3:47 PM, lbcoder <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>
>> Spell edit: Where it says "thread" should be "threat".
>>
>> On Sep 28, 4:46 pm, lbcoder <[email protected]> wrote:
>> > Cyanogen and other "hackers" (why you call them that is beyond me...
>> > "hackers" implies illegal and custom roms are ENCOURAGED -- please
>> > call them "independent android developers" instead) are PERFECTLY FREE
>> > to continue their work. If you believe otherwise, you are quite
>> > misinformed.
>> >
>> > In fact, Cyanogen has himself personally stated that he WILL continue
>> > his work, which is actually NOT AFFECTED by the licensing on google
>> > closed source apps. *minor* changes are being made such that custom
>> > roms will NOT include the closed source apps, which you can save from
>> > your stock rom (i.e. backup, which is allowed within the terms of the
>> > license).
>> >
>> > Fact is that there are some apps that google produces FOR android that
>> > are NOT part of AOSP and are distributed closed source under different
>> > licenses than AOSP. ACCEPT IT.
>> >
>> > And FYI: your thread of going with wimo is kind of retarded since wimo
>> > is *exactly everything* that you are using as an excuse against google
>> > affecting your use of android. If you don't like having a handful of
>> > closed source apps on your phone, then 1) Don't use them -- they
>> > aren't required for Android, 2) Don't use wimo since it is *entirely
>> > closed source*.
>> >
>> > Read everything here to understand:http://www.cyanogenmod.com/
>> >
>> > On Sep 26, 10:34 am, Joe Greene <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >
>> > > Well done, I was planning on getting a G1 on Wednesday with the hopes
>> > > of putting Cyanogen on it, but because of this, I'm afraid I can no
>> > > longer support you as a company and as such, I will now get a Samsung
>> > > OMNIA with Windows Mobile, I shall also add all google ad services to
>> > > my adblock list, use Microsofts Bing and at soonest possible chance,
>> > > change my email address to a different service.
>> >
>> > > If there was some sense in your actions regarding Cyanogen, I would
>> > > just say "Fair enough" and move on, but there is none, firstly, you
>> > > say "This is open source", then you wait a year after it was released,
>> > > then shut the main ROM maker down, because some free to access
>> > > (Emphasis on free) services are bundled with it, this isn't hurting
>> > > your bottom line at all, I can access gmail for free on anything with
>> > > a web browser, even the not "With Google" devices that have a browser
>> > > (Such as my current Moto V3xx), yet I don't see you having a script to
>> > > make sure the request is coming from Windows, Linux, Android OS, etc,
>> > > these actions really give off a vibe that you're just annoyed that
>> > > this single man is able to code better and faster than your entire
>> > > Android Dev Team and you don't want to compete.
>> >
>> > > If you really wanted this to stop for any other reason, you could of
>> > > patched the bug that lets us root the phone, but you never did, unlike
>> > > Sony with the Playstation Portable, people have been releasing custom
>> > > firmware since day 1 on that, Sony didn't like it, but never sent a
>> > > C&D because they knew most of the market share for it was people who
>> > > wanted to flash it, they patched the firmware instead again and again
>> > > to stop it, but never truely tried to stop it completely, if you don't
>> > > like these custom ROMs, then patch the bug, don't send a C&D to the
>> > > maker for helping your comunity.
>> >
>> > > In short, you've lost me as a potential customer for now, at least
>> > > until you let Cyanogen and other ROM hackers continue their work
>> > > unabridged.
>> >
>> >
>> >>
>>
>

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