fair enough!

i find it comical that vodafone can tweet a link to an article with a
release date, but are unable to confirm themselves (on the vodafone
magic forum) where the info has come from!

never mind. just have to wait and see...

cheers for your help.


On Oct 9, 2:44 pm, Al Sutton <[email protected]> wrote:
> Because whomever is in control of the updates has never been involved  
> in discussions on this list, and, before you ask, no, I don't know  
> anyone who knows how to get in touch with them.
>
> My guess would be Vodafone have set out a timetable which involves the  
> rollout happening on the 19th and Google have agreed to facilitate it.
>
> Al.
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> On 9 Oct 2009, at 14:31, shapey wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > why wouldn't google be able to confirm?
>
> > and if not from a google source, where did the linked site get the
> > info from?
>
> > (and i wasn't trying to speed up the update - just trying to find out
> > when it would be available...)
>
> > On Oct 9, 2:15 pm, Al Sutton <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> Google won't be able to confirm, but Vodafone had tweeted the date  
> >> and
> >> a link to the article.
>
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> >> necessarily those of Funky Android Limited, it's associates, or it's
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>
> >> On 9 Oct 2009, at 14:12, shapey wrote:
>
> >>>http://www.fonehome.co.uk/2009/10/android-donut-update-for-htc-magic-
> >>> ...
>
> >>> wonder where they got that info from though... can somebody from
> >>> google confirm?
>
> >>> On Oct 9, 1:57 pm, Al Sutton <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>>> Word is the donut update from Vodafone will roll out on october  
> >>>> 19th,
> >>>> so you've a while to wait yet.
>
> >>>> Al.
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>
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> >>>> company number  6741909. The registered head office is Kemp House,
> >>>> 152-160 City Road, London,  EC1V 2NX, UK.
>
> >>>> The views expressed in this email are those of the author and not
> >>>> necessarily those of Funky Android Limited, it's associates, or  
> >>>> it's
> >>>> subsidiaries.
>
> >>>> On 9 Oct 2009, at 13:00, shapey wrote:
>
> >>>>> vodafone don't push the update - they tell google to push the
> >>>>> update.
>
> >>>>> still seems like there's a lot of un-necessary confusion over  
> >>>>> this.
>
> >>>>> On Oct 7, 6:02 pm, Stuart <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>>>>> This just seems like a screw up on Vodafone's part, maybe they
> >>>>>> don't
> >>>>>> realise they need to push the update? Anyway, chances are they
> >>>>>> realise
> >>>>>> now...
>
> >>>>>> On Oct 7, 4:28 pm, Jean-Baptiste Queru <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >>>>>>> I don't have visibility on a carrier-by-carrier basis, sorry.
> >>>>>>> However,
> >>>>>>> I'm not aware of any reason why Google wouldn't want those  
> >>>>>>> updates
> >>>>>>> to
> >>>>>>> be on consumers' devices as soon as possible.
>
> >>>>>>> JBQ
>
> >>>>>>> On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 4:04 AM, shapey <[email protected]>  
> >>>>>>> wrote:
>
> >>>>>>>> thanks for clearing that up!
>
> >>>>>>>> so, has google made the 1.6 update available to the UK carriers
> >>>>>>>> yet?
>
> >>>>>>>> and if so, has google made the UK carriers aware that they can
> >>>>>>>> start
> >>>>>>>> the upgrade process?
>
> >>>>>>>> On Oct 6, 5:15 pm, Jean-Baptiste Queru <[email protected]>  
> >>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>> The decision to update a carrier's devices comes from that
> >>>>>>>>> carrier.
>
> >>>>>>>>> The underlying mechanism is an implementation detail. In the
> >>>>>>>>> case of
> >>>>>>>>> Google-Experience devices (the "with Google" ones, i.e.
> >>>>>>>>> essentially
> >>>>>>>>> the T-Mobile G1, T-Mobile myTouch 3G and Vodafone HTC Magic),
> >>>>>>>>> the
> >>>>>>>>> mechanism involves Google's infrastructure indeed. For devices
> >>>>>>>>> built
> >>>>>>>>> from the open-source tree (e.g. HTC Hero, Samsung i7500), the
> >>>>>>>>> process
> >>>>>>>>> to get the new bits onto users' devices doesn't involve  
> >>>>>>>>> Google.
>
> >>>>>>>>> JBQ
>
> >>>>>>>>> On Tue, Oct 6, 2009 at 8:51 AM, shapey <[email protected]>
> >>>>>>>>> wrote:
>
> >>>>>>>>>> hmmm...
> >>>>>>>>>> not sure i agree with you totally on that point...
>
> >>>>>>>>>> anyway - according to the moderators on the vodafone e-forum,
> >>>>>>>>>> the 1.6
> >>>>>>>>>> update will come direct from google/HTC rather than via the
> >>>>>>>>>> vodafone
> >>>>>>>>>> network, which contradicts what has been said in this  
> >>>>>>>>>> thread...
> >>>>>>>>>> (that
> >>>>>>>>>> the update will come from the network)
>
> >>>>>>>>>> it would be nice to know which is the truth.
>
> >>>>>>>>>> link to vodafone topic >http://forum.vodafone.co.uk/
> >>>>>>>>>> index.php?
> >>>>>>>>>> showtopic=36162&st=20
>
> >>>>>>>>>> On Oct 6, 12:31 pm, Al Sutton <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>> What you've said is the equivalent of saying "because ford
> >>>>>>>>>>> sell a car
> >>>>>>>>>>> which has in-built GPS, and I own a ford, an in-built GPS  
> >>>>>>>>>>> will
> >>>>>>>>>>> be
> >>>>>>>>>>> available for my car".
>
> >>>>>>>>>>> You can't infer future features for existing 'phones by
> >>>>>>>>>>> looking at the
> >>>>>>>>>>> specs of future releases of another device.
>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Al.
>
> >>>>>>>>>>> --
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> >>>>>>>>>>> Funky Android Limited is registered in England & Wales with
> >>>>>>>>>>> the
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> >>>>>>>>>>> House,
> >>>>>>>>>>> 152-160 City Road, London,  EC1V 2NX, UK.
>
> >>>>>>>>>>> The views expressed in this email are those of the author  
> >>>>>>>>>>> and
> >>>>>>>>>>> not
> >>>>>>>>>>> necessarily those of Funky Android Limited, it's associates,
> >>>>>>>>>>> or it's
> >>>>>>>>>>> subsidiaries.
>
> >>>>>>>>>>> On 6 Oct 2009, at 12:00, shapey wrote:
>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> just looking at the specs for the HTC tattoo which is due  
> >>>>>>>>>>>> for
> >>>>>>>>>>>> release
> >>>>>>>>>>>> on the 8th October on vodafone UK.
> >>>>>>>>>>>> the HTC site shows the tattoo as running 1.6 and sense  
> >>>>>>>>>>>> UI...
>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>http://www.htc.com/www/product/tattoo/specification.html
>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> from this information is it safe to assume that 1.6 is
> >>>>>>>>>>>> available to
> >>>>>>>>>>>> vodafone UK and sense UI is compatible with 1.6?
>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> hopefully that means that an update will be arriving soon  
> >>>>>>>>>>>> for
> >>>>>>>>>>>> vodafone
> >>>>>>>>>>>> UK magic owners...
>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Oct 6, 11:52 am, shapey <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> so has the 1.6 update been made available by google to all
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> carriers
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> worldwide now?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> or just to t-mobile US to cover the '911' issue?
>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Oct 5, 6:23 pm, lbcoder <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Despite the naysayers, it is irrelevant how you are
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> connected to the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> network. When "vodafone-de" decides to push the update,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> your device
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> will go get it NO MATTER WHAT network you are connected
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> to...
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> including wifi.
>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Unless "vodafone-de" doesn't do updates at all, in which
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> case you're
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> on your own.
>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Oct 5, 9:59 am, Tobias Eisentraeger
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> <[email protected]>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yeah, I also wonder, I am running a vodafone-de device
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on a
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> differnet
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> network, how does that get updated when the carrier i am
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on does
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not have
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that device?
>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 5, 2009 at 3:49 PM, shapey
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> seeing as it's starting to be pushed in the US i'm
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> guessing
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it'll only
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> be a matter of time before it gets here.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> will it be on all networks at the same time?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> does google push the update to the with google handsets
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (i.e.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> vodafone
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> magic) or does it come from the carriers?
>
> >>>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>>> Jean-Baptiste M. "JBQ" Queru
> >>>>>>>>> Software Engineer, Android Open-Source Project, Google.
>
> >>>>>>>>> Questions sent directly to me that have no reason for being
> >>>>>>>>> private
> >>>>>>>>> will likely get ignored or forwarded to a public forum with no
> >>>>>>>>> further
> >>>>>>>>> warning.
>
> >>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>> Jean-Baptiste M. "JBQ" Queru
> >>>>>>> Software Engineer, Android Open-Source Project, Google.
>
> >>>>>>> Questions sent directly to me that have no reason for being
> >>>>>>> private
> >>>>>>> will likely get ignored or forwarded to a public forum with no
> >>>>>>> further
> >>>>>>> warning.
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