I don't find a web archive to be the "proper" location of a mailing
list. (Especially a web archive that loses data.) Meh, it doesn't
matter. The rest of us saw the colors, and even responded accordingly.
"Oh no, mutt didn't show colors, it must be everyone else's fault"
would be just as irrelevant, esp since his question has been answered.

(For the record, my thought was "maybe the source" but I had figured
there might be a better explanation somewhere.)

On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 2:49 PM, lbcoder <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Maybe view it from its proper location rather than just the email
> notifications...
> Hint: point your browser here:
> http://groups.google.com/group/android-discuss/browse_thread/thread/fb21b8208652a2b3/551e2cbb33d7f57c#551e2cbb33d7f57c
>
> On Oct 22, 12:55 pm, Disconnect <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Showed up fine here (gmail). Maybe view the rich-text/html version of
>> his message..?
>>
>> > the <span style=3D"color: rgb(255, 0, 0);">parame=
>> > ters in RED</span> mean
>> On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 12:04 PM, lbcoder <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> > Well, if the program is well written, then the programmer should never
>> > have to worry about this at all.
>>
>> > It is also very difficult to guess what specific fields he is
>> > interested in understanding unless he tells us. He might have (said
>> > something about being in RED), but it didn't come through in the
>> > message.
>>
>> > Regarding the traces.txt file, its pretty straight forward. It shows
>> > traces for all of the threads running within the process that
>> > triggered the ANR, right down to LINE NUMBER for non-native code.
>>
>> > On Oct 21, 10:36 am, Disconnect <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >> While this is all excellent advice, he's asking about specific fields
>> >> in the log dump.
>>
>> >> On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 10:23 AM, Streets Of Boston
>>
>> >> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> >> > Yep!
>>
>> >> > And a 'long time' can mean different things.
>> >> > If you need to have a smooth UI experience (and you should), keep the
>> >> > processing for any UI-event (i.e. any method called on the main UI
>> >> > thread) under 100ms (1/10th of a second). And that's pushing it.
>>
>> >> > On button clicks, when the user moves from one screen to another, and
>> >> > similar events, the processing-time for UI-events can be a bit longer,
>> >> > but 1 second is pushing it.
>>
>> >> > When you get the ANR, it means that your UI-event processing took
>> >> > waaaaaaaaaaay too long.
>> >> > The goal is to make the UI experience as pleasant as possible. Even if
>> >> > you don't get an ANR, your UI experience may already appear to be
>> >> > slow.
>>
>> >> > On Oct 21, 9:41 am, lbcoder <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >> >> ANR means that you have something holding up the UI thread for longer
>> >> >> than the specified time.
>>
>> >> >> For example;
>> >> >> You have a button on the screen. The button runs a network request
>> >> >> that takes 30 seconds to process. This network request is within the
>> >> >> same thread as the button, so the button's click listener doesn't
>> >> >> return control to the UI thread for a long time. ANR. To fix this,
>> >> >> have the button start a new THREAD and run the network request from
>> >> >> within this thread, that way the button returns immediately and the UI
>> >> >> thread continues to function while the long process happens in the
>> >> >> background.
>>
>> >> >> IN GENERAL, anything that can potentially take a "long time" (such as
>> >> >> networking or data processing) should be done in a new thread.
>>
>> >> >> On Oct 21, 2:06 am, Manohar Mahapatra <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> >> >> > Hi ,
>>
>> >> >> > I am interested to know the nitty gritty of ANR dialogs and How to 
>> >> >> > analyse
>> >> >> > ANRs with the info I get , A typical ANR looks like this( see below) 
>> >> >> > but I
>> >> >> > cant figure out much Info from this .
>> >> >> > Also I want to know what info should I look for in 
>> >> >> > /data/anr/traces.txt to
>> >> >> > compliment my analysis of such a log and pin point the root cause .
>> >> >> > I want to know what these the parameters in RED mean
>>
>> >> >> > 01-01 01:43:05.313: WARN/WindowManager(1834): Key dispatching timed 
>> >> >> > out
>> >> >> > sending to
>> >> >> > com.android.settings/com.android.settings.bluetooth.BluetoothSettings
>> >> >> > 01-01 01:43:05.318: WARN/WindowManager(1834): *Dispatch state*:
>> >> >> > {{KeyEvent{action=1
>> >> >> > code=4 repeat=0 meta=0 scancode=212 mFlags=8} to Window{435c7df8
>> >> >> > com.android.settings/com.android.settings.bluetooth.BluetoothSettings
>> >> >> > paused=false} @ 1104543391080 lw=Window{435c7df8
>> >> >> > com.android.settings/com.android.settings.bluetooth.BluetoothSettings
>> >> >> > paused=false} lb=android.os.binderpr...@43502ae0 fin=false gfw=true 
>> >> >> > ed=true
>> >> >> > tts=0 wf=false fp=false mcf=Window{4355bf08
>> >> >> > com.android.settings/com.android.settings.bluetooth.BluetoothSettings
>> >> >> > paused=false}}}
>> >> >> > 01-01 01:43:05.323: WARN/WindowManager(1834):* Current state*:  
>> >> >> > {{null to
>> >> >> > Window{4355bf08
>> >> >> > com.android.settings/com.android.settings.bluetooth.BluetoothSettings
>> >> >> > paused=false} @ 1104543785321 lw=Window{4355bf08
>> >> >> > com.android.settings/com.android.settings.bluetooth.BluetoothSettings
>> >> >> > paused=false} lb=android.os.binderpr...@43539ea8 fin=false gfw=true 
>> >> >> > ed=true
>> >> >> > tts=0 wf=false fp=false mcf=Window{4355bf08
>> >> >> > com.android.settings/com.android.settings.bluetooth.BluetoothSettings
>> >> >> > paused=false}}}
>> >> >> > 01-01 01:43:05.438: INFO/ActivityManager(1834): ANR (application not
>> >> >> > responding) in process: com.android.settings
>> >> >> > 01-01 01:43:05.438: INFO/ActivityManager(1834): Annotation:
>> >> >> > keyDispatchingTimedOut
>> >> >> > 01-01 01:43:05.438: INFO/ActivityManager(1834): CPU usage:
>> >> >> > 01-01 01:43:05.438: INFO/ActivityManager(1834): Load: 0.46 / 1.05 / 
>> >> >> > 1.26
>> >> >> > 01-01 01:43:05.438: INFO/ActivityManager(1834): CPU usage from 
>> >> >> > 5421ms to
>> >> >> > 94ms ago:
>> >> >> > 01-01 01:43:05.438: INFO/ActivityManager(1834):   system_server: 5% 
>> >> >> > = 3%
>> >> >> > user + 2% kernel
>> >> >> > 01-01 01:43:05.438: INFO/ActivityManager(1834):   qt5480_work_que: 
>> >> >> > 1% = 0%
>> >> >> > user + 1% kernel
>> >> >> > 01-01 01:43:05.438: INFO/ActivityManager(1834):   events/0: 0% = 0% 
>> >> >> > user +
>> >> >> > 0% kernel
>> >> >> > 01-01 01:43:05.438: INFO/ActivityManager(1834):   akmd2: 0% = 0% 
>> >> >> > user + 0%
>> >> >> > kernel
>> >> >> > 01-01 01:43:05.438: INFO/ActivityManager(1834):   btld: 0% = 0% user 
>> >> >> > + 0%
>> >> >> > kernel
>> >> >> > 01-01 01:43:05.438: INFO/ActivityManager(1834):   com.android.phone: 
>> >> >> > 0% = 0%
>> >> >> > user + 0% kernel
>> >> >> > 01-01 01:43:05.438: INFO/ActivityManager(1834):   drexe: 0% = 0% 
>> >> >> > user + 0%
>> >> >> > kernel
>> >> >> > 01-01 01:43:05.438: INFO/ActivityManager(1834):   com.wssyncmlnps: 
>> >> >> > 0% = 0%
>> >> >> > user + 0% kernel
>> >> >> > 01-01 01:43:05.438: INFO/ActivityManager(1834): TOTAL: 7% = 3% user 
>> >> >> > + 3%
>> >> >> > kernel
>> >> >> > 01-01 01:43:05.443: INFO/ActivityManager(1834): Removing old ANR 
>> >> >> > trace file
>> >> >> > from /data/anr/traces
>>
>> >> >> > I did go through the 
>> >> >> > *http://developer.android.com/guide/practices/design/responsiveness.html*
>> >> >> > but that gives a very good head start , I request if  anybody has 
>> >> >> > documented
>> >> >> > more on the ANR analysis / case studies , please share the link/blog 
>> >> >> > .
>>
>> >> >> > I wanted to know what causes the WindowManager/ActivityManager to 
>> >> >> > trigger an
>> >> >> > ANR. I want to understand from a Design/Code perspective as how ANR 
>> >> >> > dilaog
>> >> >> > is formed.
>>
>> >> >> > Thanks
>> >> >> > AndUzer- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> >> >> - Show quoted text -
>>
>>
> >
>

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