Can you guys please keep your dirty laundry to yourselves?  You're not
doing anyone any favours.

On Nov 9, 12:25 pm, Al Sutton <[email protected]> wrote:
> [Moving this to -discuss as it's was off topic for -developers]
>
>  > Charbax wrote on Mon, 9 Nov 2009 01:04:57 -0800 (PST)
>  >
>  > Slander and disparage doesn't have to use f-words and s-words.
>
> Slander has a specific meaning, and as for disparage, well, you can  
> call my opinions disparaging of Archos if you think they are, that's  
> your view.
>  > alsutton has coordinated constant Archos bashing on the archosfans
>  > forum since September 2nd until about October 15th when he first
>  > announced he was seeking legal advice.
>
> First off you need to get your facts right. We announced we were  
> seeking legal advice on the 16th of October and my last post was made  
> on the 28th of October where I clearly stated my reasons for stopping  
> posting were due to your continual attempts to mislead users, which,  
> when I asked you to back them up, you responded with personal insults  
> directed at me.
>
> Secondly, as I've told you before, I wanted to help users determine  
> what was an Archos issue and what was an Android issue so they  
> wouldn't try the A5 and walk away thinking Android was at fault.  
> Archos did some heavy customisations to Android (from software buttons  
> on the UI through to running a separate media framework on the same  
> device), and hence the possibility for confusion.
>
> You only need to look on your own sites forums to see the problems  
> users were having, and it's separating things like the random crashes,  
> problems going into suspend, time to acquire a GPS lock, which are  
> most likely issues specific to the Archos, from things like no WPA2  
> Enterprise support and problems with hidden SSIDs, which are generic  
> Android issues and are registered in b.android.com, so that users  
> don't think that if they buy an Android device from another  
> manufacturer they're going to see all the same problems.
>
>  > All things from:
>  > - Recommending that people not buy the Archos 5 Internet Tablet in  
> countless posts
>
> Which is something numerous other people and reviews have said in  
> relation to consumers buying it.
>
>  > - Advertising for alternatives to Archos 5 Internet Tablet in  
> countless posts
>
> You have a forum called "Competitors" which is specifically for this  
> reason, so what exactly is wrong with that?
>
>  > - Claiming to have inside knowledge from Google engineers that  
> Google Marketplace and Google Apps would never be available on Archos  
> 5  Internet Tablet in countless posts
>
> Would you like to point at a post where I claim to have "inside  
> knowledge from Google engineers"?. I don't remember ever claiming  
> that, but what I do remeber is pointing out that the A5 lacks many of  
> the hardware features needed for a Google Experience device, and this  
> is something T3 published in their review 
> athttp://www.t3.com/reviews/ipod-and-mp3-players/all-mp3-players/archos...
>   (third paragraph after the set of 4 links)
>
>  > - Plenty of other trolling posting controversial, inflammatory,  
> irrelevant and off-topic messages
>
> That may be your view of them, other people had different views, and  
> given that most of your responses to my posts were generally littered  
> with insults aimed at me or a refusal to provide evidence for you  
> claims I hardly think you're in a good position.
>  > I'm looking forward to see the emails. I am sure alsutton was asking
>  > an unreasonably large payment to be the exclusive marketplace on the
>  > device. Probably his dream, to finally have an opportunity make some
>  > money on his marketplace project.
>
> Once Archos release them from being covered by the NDA then I will be  
> happy to supply them to you.
>
> In terms of the money involved, well, do you really think Archos would  
> have supplied us with a contract and a commitment to countersign it if  
> we were just looking for a huge payout?
>
> Al.
>
> On Nov 8, 4:15 pm, JP <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> - Hide quoted text -
>
>  > On Nov 7, 11:25 pm, "Fred Grott(Android 
> Expert,http://mobilebytes.wordpress.com
> )" > <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>  > > Charbox your slander definition seems to be somewhat unique and
>  > > different.
>
>  > Agreed. His coordinate system for slander and disparage could use  
> some
>  > calibration, it seems.

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