Here here!!! I think Steven makes a valid point. From a developer standpoint
and coming from a position where I have to evaluate a platform for a private
company I'm not going to give high marks for a thrown together framework and
a company and the individuals that represent that company who more or less
openly use open source as a crutch for their lack of innitiative to support
the framework that they want to tout as a commercial entity. By support I
don't mean snidely remarking in every response to individuals who are making
valid points and requests. I understand that the current request may not be
high on the todo list for your people but that doesn't mean you need to be
rude in the way you respond to it. I could also address the remark of why
you are responding to these requests in the first place its outlandish and
boorish of you to say anything like that to anyone even in a sarcastic tone
this is serious business and I am questioning your professionalism and maybe
even why you respond at all considering that the way you do has set at least
a handful of people off. If you would like a reminder of why you do it IS
because you get PAID to do your job and that I am sure includes responding
to the developers that are putting their time in for nothing right now
considering the market is only now accepting paid applications. In fact I am
sure of it that some of the people reading and responding on this list have
submitted free applications for a $25 charge to make this platform happen.
You can get all the hardware support you want but if that also means that
the hardware vendors are going to be covering the cost of developing
software which is going to be proprietary you won't get very far and all of
you there know this wholeheartedly. I am sorry to say that if the energy
isn't there from the 3rd party developers the hardware vendors wouldn't be
sitting there backing the platform in the first place. and if the
profesional support isn't there the 3rd party developers that want to create
the spectacular apps won't stick around. Unless all you are looking for are
simple fart machines leave the unneeded snide remarks out of it. As the old
saying goes if you don't have anything nice to say don't say it. You never
know if you are going to put someone off that might potentially be of value
to you.

On Feb 17, 2009 3:28 PM, "stefoid" <[email protected]> wrote:


That would be the ideal outcome, yes, since the framework is your
baby.  Failing that, what can you think of that will speed up the
process of learning and modifying your code to suit our ends?
Whenever I encoutner a new technology that I have to learn, especially
if there are  timeframes involved, the first thing I do is try to find
someone who knows a lot more than I do onthe subject to see if they
can 'fasttrack' me and/or point out pitfalls or traps or deadends
etc...  you guys are the experts in the room.

 Look at it from the point of view that of a company that is
considering Android for a product , but perhaps the framework doesnt
support what they need to do out of the box.  And its a showstopper.
that company can make a private modficiation to the framework and  now
it has a maintainence hassle on its hands supporting that, and whats
more the developers are new to android (I mean, who isnt new to
android - its new!)  doing the feasibility study, probably under time
pressure to make a decision..   If they could go to the powers that be
with 'the android team is looking into this' or 'the android team
suggests this approach, and says not to do it this way because...'
you get the idea.

hypothetically speaking.

On Feb 18, 4:48 am, Joe Onorato <[email protected]> wrote: > I think they're
looking for us to do it...
> On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 12:47 AM, Dianne Hackborn <[email protected]
>wrote:

> > > On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 1:01 PM, stefoid <[email protected]>
wrote: > > >> The imaginati...
> > [email protected]

> > > Note: please don't send private questions to me, as I don't have time
to > > provide private s...

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