OK, if not require, then will the usage of HW security be supported?

-Hadi

On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 2:29 PM, Dianne Hackborn <[email protected]>wrote:

> Require?  I think that is unlikely.
>
>
> On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 9:55 AM, John Markey <[email protected]>wrote:
>
>>  All
>>
>> asked this some time ago and it may not be changing
>>
>> will future versions of Android require hardware features for support of
>> security:
>>
>> Trustzone like secure virtualization of the processor execution
>> environment
>> OTP internal data storage for one time programmable keys or identity
>> Crypto Acceleration (AES, SHA, RSA, ECC,...)
>>
>> is this planned or discussed for future versions
>>
>>
>> thank you
>> john
>> security architect mobile devices
>> broadcom
>> [email protected]
>>
>>  ------------------------------
>> *From:* [email protected] [mailto:
>> [email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Dianne Hackborn
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, August 11, 2009 6:44 PM
>> *To:* [email protected]
>> *Subject:* [android-security-discuss] Re: Do they need to change the
>> security keys for the OEM?
>>
>> There are no guarantees about how secure a device is without ro.secure
>> being set -- at this point only devices with it set have been shipped, so
>> there hasn't been a security review for the system running without it set.
>> I doubt any one person actually knows what all is impacted by not having it
>> set.
>>
>> As far as carriers, the big one is giving the user root access.  Sure, if
>> you have ro.secure not yet, then the user can get root access...  but
>> because this configuration hasn't been productized, there are some
>> potentially disturbing repercussions such as the fact that all you need to
>> do is leave adb access on, and anyone can plug your phone into a computer
>> and have root.  If a non-developer phone is going to ship without ro.secure
>> set, at the very least I think it would be required to have a facility to
>> set a root password.
>>
>> Bottom line: if you are going to ship a device without ro.secure set, be
>> sure to examine all of the code that this impacts to make sure you are okay
>> with the result.
>>
>> On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 6:02 PM, Disconnect <[email protected]>wrote:
>>
>>> Doesn't the setting of ro.secure depend on his needs? (At least, the
>>> engineers on IRC are always claiming that the "proper" android setting is
>>> off and it is the evil carriers who insist on turning it on, etc.) Turning
>>> it on may be the right answer but it doesn't seem like it is the only one.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 8:30 PM, Dianne Hackborn <[email protected]>wrote:
>>>
>>>> When you are creating the user image for your device, you need to sign
>>>> everything with your own private keys that nobody else has access to.  You
>>>> also need to make sure the ro.secure system property is set, and that the
>>>> build phase for generating the final dexopt files into the system image is
>>>> done (so dexopt doesn't need to be run at boot).
>>>>
>>>> This is the "mydevice-user" configuration.  Generally development will
>>>> happen with "mydevice-eng" or "mydevice-userdebug", but the result of these
>>>> build configurations is not intended for shipping on a device.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 5:21 AM, cht <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> The security keys under the directory android\build\target\product
>>>>> \security is used to sign the apk for defferent security level. do
>>>>> they need to generate some new keys of theirself or do not change it
>>>>> for some compatible problems?
>>>>>
>>>>> thank you
>>>>>
>>>>> cht
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Dianne Hackborn
>>>> Android framework engineer
>>>> [email protected]
>>>>
>>>> Note: please don't send private questions to me, as I don't have time to
>>>> provide private support, and so won't reply to such e-mails.  All such
>>>> questions should be posted on public forums, where I and others can see and
>>>> answer them.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Dianne Hackborn
>> Android framework engineer
>> [email protected]
>>
>> Note: please don't send private questions to me, as I don't have time to
>> provide private support, and so won't reply to such e-mails.  All such
>> questions should be posted on public forums, where I and others can see and
>> answer them.
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> Dianne Hackborn
> Android framework engineer
> [email protected]
>
> Note: please don't send private questions to me, as I don't have time to
> provide private support, and so won't reply to such e-mails.  All such
> questions should be posted on public forums, where I and others can see and
> answer them.
>

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