Hey Tauren,

Actually you are making perfect sense I think.

I guess I was looking at it from the standpoint of something totally
different,but I'm glad I asked it. :)

So if I am understanding you correctly then the sdcard protects the
phone from saving any files to the sdcard since the permissions are
limited to read only?

Thanks for clearing this up Tauren I guess I didn't look close enough
at what it was really saying.



On Aug 27, 10:31 am, Tauren <[email protected]> wrote:
> I think you are thinking about this wrong, what this I believe is
> directed to is that you have no permissions on necessarily on files on
> an sdcard.  So If I hook the phone up to the computer and I mount the
> sdcard you no longer have access to the files because its mounted to
> the computer.  More so the security of the phone is not enforced upon
> the files so you may not have permissions assigned to say a document
> on an sdcard such that it is read only.   When you mount a filesystem
> on say an sdcard you end up with the permissions of the user that
> mounted the files, thusly yourself.  This is normal behavior unless
> there is something I'm not picking up here from the wording.
>
> On Aug 27, 10:25 am, Eric Dorman <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
> > Ok, um I'll try to cite it.
>
> > Maybe I have this completely wrong.
>
> > "External files can disappear if the user mounts the external storage
> > on a computer or removes the media, and there's no security enforced
> > upon files you save to the external storage. All applications can read
> > and write files placed on the external storage and the user can remove
> > them."
>
> > -Android Dev Docs
>
> > Say I hooked up my phone to the computer and I wanted to transfer some
> > files like maybe a media file or something like that.
>
> > Not the best example I know,but I hope it gives you an idea of what I
> > am thinking.
>
> > On Aug 27, 10:13 am, Tauren <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > I'm still a little confused by your wording.  What do you define
> > > external storage as?  Can you cite this area of the dev docs?  More
> > > could you give a better example?
>
> > > On Aug 27, 10:03 am, Eric Dorman <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > Hey Tauren,
>
> > > > It would be a attack from the computer to the phone in some sort of
> > > > file transfer.
>
> > > > I guess what I am trying to say is what if a user connects the device
> > > > into the computer and has files on the computer that he wants to
> > > > transfer to the device via a USB Mass Storage?
>
> > > > I believe from the dev docs that it said external files can disappear
> > > > if the user puts the external storage on the computer.
>
> > > > I hope I am not confusing anyone or asking a dumb question.
>
> > > > I am just curious. :D
>
> > > > On Aug 27, 9:40 am, Tauren <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > Is this an attach on the phone itself via the sdcard? or an attack on
> > > > > the computer?   For an attack on the computer to occur the software
> > > > > often needs to be run, which from the sdcard shouldn't happen.   As
> > > > > for attacking the phone I'll leave that up to the experts but I
> > > > > suspect that the phone won't just run stuff.  If its a vulnerable
> > > > > document of some sort like say a PDF then it comes down to the user
> > > > > and knowing not to open things he shouldn't.
>
> > > > > On Aug 27, 9:21 am, Eric Dorman <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > Hey guys,
>
> > > > > > I have recently been reading up on the External Storage 
> > > > > > Documentation
> > > > > > and I have a question that I wanted to address before I made any
> > > > > > assumptions. :D
>
> > > > > > If you can write files to lets say the SD Card then if the user
> > > > > > connects his/her device into a computer then couldn't the External
> > > > > > Storage be vulnerable to some kind of security attack on the files 
> > > > > > in
> > > > > > the External Storage System that have been saved?
>
> > > > > > I am not sure if this would count as a vulnerability,but I thought 
> > > > > > I'd
> > > > > > ask before I go and report it. :(

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