Wouter,

Thanks for the detailed reply. I agree with your points. I just try to
understand the different statements and you have made the point clear
to me.

Thanks for that,

Holger


On Tue, 14 Dec 2004 22:16:38 +0100, Wouter Zoons
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> I'm not sure but I assume he means that you would need a Collection to hold
> the values that make up the list, the complete list that is.
> 
> It's not scaleable in the sense that ideally only the data shown on screen
> should have been loaded, not all the records on the other pages too.
> 
> On the other hand, it depends on what you use it for .. do you really want
> to list a million records ? I don't think so .. IMO it is a good idea to
> have an upper limit to the number of records, when that limit is reach you
> can display a warning saying "more than X records found, please refine your
> search" or something ..
> 
> So basically you never load X records, for example with Hibernate you can
> specify to list no more than X records ..
> 
> But again, the best thing would be to be able to have a displaytag call
> delegated directly to the persistence layer and retrieve the next/previous
> page of data (since this can be optimized by the DB by already loading it in
> the background while you're still reading the current page). Being able to
> do so would inherently be against well-known J2EE design patterns (ie.
> shielding presentation from persistence using the business layer)
> 
> Anyway, I don't see/know any alternatives to displaytag so ...
> 
> -- Wouter
> 
> Ps: anyway, I was talking about _tabs_, not _tables_ .. any comments ? :-)
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Holger Winkelmann [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Tuesday, December 14, 2004 8:44 PM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Cc: andromda-user
> > Subject: Re: [Andromda-user] request for comments: dropping tabs from the
> > bpm4struts cartridge
> >
> > little bit OT here, but I read  on TTS displaytag, used in bpm4struts,
> > is not scalable ??? can you explain what they mean.
> >
> > see 2nd comment on this thread:
> >
> > http://www.theserverside.com/news/thread.tss?thread_id=30529
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Holger
> 
> 


-- 
Holger Winkelmann


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