unsubscribe ----- Original Message ----- From: "nick black" <nick.bl...@sprezzatech.com> To: "Lennart Poettering" <lenn...@poettering.net> Cc: "systemd dev" <systemd-de...@lists.freedesktop.org>, "Debian Derivatives" <debian-derivati...@lists.debian.org>, "Ångström dev" <angstrom-distro-devel@linuxtogo.org> Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2012 3:30:08 PM Subject: Re: [Angstrom-devel] [systemd-devel] [PATCH] add sprezzos as alias for debian in autoconf script
Lennart Poettering left as an exercise for the reader: > On Fri, 28.12.12 23:34, nick black (nick.bl...@sprezzatech.com) wrote: > Sprezzos is in the same category as Ubuntu, right? If so, doesn't > --with-distro=debian do enough for your needs? Do you need more? I'm currently using --with-distro=debian, and it serves my purposes just fine. My analysis is thus: - a debian derivative, at the moment it derives, has behavior equivalent to debian, and is thus nothing more than an alias. this holds for any derivative relationship, of course. debian provides dpkg-vendor(1) to explore these relationships, but it's kinda incomplete and not portable in any case. - during this time, the systemd build process will be sucked into various automated processes (such as debian's autobuilder or sprezzos's autoupgrader). the automator at this point wants to choose the appropriate one, because... - at some point, either debian or the derivative might lurch in a new direction. in either case, carefully-crafted, minimal new TARGET_-specific code (or however you choose to do it) can mirror the divergence. all scripts continue to work. - this does lead to an explosion in aliases, but they're localized to configure.in, so who cares? well, maybe we do care. - in that case, tell people like myself to piss off until we're at least on distrowatch, and use --distro=debian. that's fine; it simply means that, should some divergence occur, any derivative-side automation will go out-of-sync until it's manually corrected. i think i'm just jealous of Ångström, though. the right thing to do, as pabs pointed out, is to junk all of this and make decisions based on discovered form, not name of form. that's a more serious overhaul, though. if my patch is not accepted, i'll not hold it against systemd :). > Well, is Ångström a Debian derivative? If so then we should replace it > by TARGET_DEBIAN, indeed. Purrrrrrrrrrge! -- nick black http://www.sprezzatech.com -- unix and hpc consulting to make an apple pie from scratch, you need first invent a universe. _______________________________________________ Angstrom-distro-devel mailing list Angstrom-distro-devel@linuxtogo.org http://lists.linuxtogo.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/angstrom-distro-devel _______________________________________________ Angstrom-distro-devel mailing list Angstrom-distro-devel@linuxtogo.org http://lists.linuxtogo.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/angstrom-distro-devel
