I use Angular because it serves me and I don¹t have to worry about the file size that it brings in my last demo. But I wouldn¹t use it for a simple form verification if that is all that I am using. Angular comes with a lite weight version of something similar to Jquery as well and that should be used (and is used by Angular anyway) where possible if you have NG running. For mobile apps it may be too much and also companies like vodaphone will want to use their own homegrown javascript engine which will use everything that is loaded. Let me say that that I love frameworks as they allow far less than perfect programmers like me to get further and get some use from the toolset and drink more beer. It advances the evolution of code. I hope that speech recognition programming arrives sooner rather than later ³give me an object that joins cars and manufactures tables and create a method to get me american cars for rent on date supplied²
I want to see joe blogs able to do something more with code and in this sense I agree with you, that they obfuscate more complex patterns and constructs that we might mess up. And in this goal of getting more people 'coding' I guess I go away from a lot of programmers who love to complicate code with shorthand and over elegant solutions that are unreadable quickly. Those geeks would like to see this art kept dark. I like to get things working and less prone to break and that others can understand and therefore also help me. From: Johannes Zorn <[email protected]> Reply-To: <[email protected]> Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2014 01:13:13 -0800 (PST) To: <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [AngularJS] Re: Should use jquery with angularjs ?? So why are you using Angular.js then? On Wednesday, February 5, 2014 10:09:51 AM UTC+1, calvin crane wrote: > I disagree too isn¹t this fun. I do not assume that there will be poor code by > the programmer like you. Its an ideology. And the best practise should be to > start correctly. > > From: Johannes Zorn <[email protected] <javascript:> > > Reply-To: <[email protected] <javascript:> > > Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2014 01:08:19 -0800 (PST) > To: <[email protected] <javascript:> > > Subject: Re: [AngularJS] Re: Should use jquery with angularjs ?? > > Again, I have to disagree. I'd rather have an additional 50k of libraries than > a slow DOM traversal function, a buggy css selector engine or a malfunctioning > trim-function that does not work well with UTF-8 characters. > It is nice to keep the dependencies small, but it's not the primary objective. > Anyways, this begins to be off topic. > > Best, > > Johannes > > On Wednesday, February 5, 2014 10:04:27 AM UTC+1, calvin crane wrote: >> You need to minimise dependencies think about a simple javascript function >> that validates a form perhaps you don¹t need a lib. Agree that most people >> find Jquery a godsend. I was meaning more for ideology and that point was >> missed or poorly made by me. Dependencies are never a good thing but we like >> the advantages when it outweighs the weight of the framework or lib. >> >> From: Johannes Zorn <[email protected]> >> Reply-To: <[email protected]> >> Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2014 01:00:59 -0800 (PST) >> To: <[email protected]> >> Subject: [AngularJS] Re: Should use jquery with angularjs ?? >> >> I have to disagree here. In my opinion, wherever possible, use existing >> libraries. A community reviewed, well tested, often used library will provide >> code quality most developers can't reach. It is important to learn and try by >> yourself, but for a publicly accessible application I would strongly advise >> against using your own implementation of anything you can use from a library >> like jQuery. There might be exceptions, but by reading the initial question, >> I assume this is not one. >> >> Best, >> >> Johannes >> >> On Wednesday, February 5, 2014 9:55:14 AM UTC+1, calvin crane wrote: >>> No always you should try to NOT use any libs and frameworks wherever >>> possible. Use just what you really need - if you had time then you should >>> just use pure javascript with nothing else and write your own everything. >>> This is seldom going to be the case and is a bit like asking ford to make >>> their own tires and then again its not. >>> >>> On Tuesday, 4 February 2014 23:50:49 UTC, biloki wrote: >>>> Hi everyone, >>>> >>>> I have a question very base: should we use jquery in the app that use >>>> angularjs ? 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