it is not, an Isapi filter, WCF is a pretty amazing piece of software I know 
really well, I developed tons of WCF services, it has amazing extensions points 
and an amazing server and client pipeline.
At a certain point someone has thought that since rest is coming back to life 
WCF must support also rest/Json but is is not intended to do that, that's why 
now we have WebAPI in the asp.net stack.
The first implementation of the rest/Json stack in WCF, via the infamous 
WebHttpBehavior, was a PITA, that's it. Luckily after that failure someone has 
thought that creating a brand new stack is a good choice instead of trying to 
built something on top of WCF.

.m
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From: Kevin MacDonald<mailto:[email protected]>
Sent: Monday, February 24, 2014 8:10 PM
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>

It's also really hard to figure out what WCF is doing because it is (I believe) 
an ISAPI filter, and most of it is running deep under the covers below where 
.NET has access to it. I abandoned WCF because it was producing mangled JSON 
which I could not fix or debug, and it turned out months later that there was a 
known bug where when logging is turned on in certain situations this bug occurs.

Service Stack is much cleaner, and is designed specifically for web services, 
unlike WCF which in the Microsoft tradition seems to be designed to be 
everything for everybody


Kevin


On Mon, Feb 24, 2014 at 9:14 AM, Mauro Servienti 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
WCF is everything other then buggy, it simply really hard to access it via 
JavaScript, a PITA.

Sent from my Amazing Yellow Lumia, typos are guaranteed ;-)
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From: Kevin MacDonald<mailto:[email protected]>
Sent: 24/02/2014 17.59
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [AngularJS] Is AngularJS good choice for my project with WCF, SQL 
Server

On a slightly different note I suggest considering Service Stack over WCF for 
server-side web services. WCF is bloated and buggy.

On Sunday, February 23, 2014 8:14:20 PM UTC-8, Luke Kende wrote:
You asked about developing a web application.  When we talk about web "apps" 
these days we tend to mean an SPA.

Using angular just for javascript functionality and delivering each page from 
the server can work, but I believe defeats the purpose of it's design.

I agree with Mario in terms of "context" and having multiple SPAs where needed, 
but an SPA is superior when you are writing a very specific interface, like say 
Gmail, or a spreadsheet UI, or maybe a social network like Facebook.   These 
cases are when the app doesn't need to have the complete page redrawn, only 
certain areas change, like switching from a list of emails to showing one 
specific message.  (Can you imagine Facebook or Gmail loading a new page for 
every view switch?)

Using angular creates a separation between the generating the view (client 
side) and generating the data needed for the view (server-side).  The server 
does not need to know about html and and html has no sprinkling of C#, PHP, or 
other servers-side language.  I find this to be a superior way to write html 
personally.  It even abstracts the the back-end such that page doesn't care 
where it gets its data as along as the ajax call returns the json data needed.

In terms of performance, the app doesn't load everything, only the index.html 
file with css and javascript resources, then your home page specifies a view 
and only that template is loaded (a small html file typically).  Once an action 
causes a change in view only then is a new template loaded via XHR.  The only 
added time is if the data must be retrieved to populate the view, but if the 
app already has it in javascript then this much quicker than loading it from 
the server (especially if someone has a slow connection).

In summary, if you have a focused context for an application and want to use a 
browser as the UI, then an SPA (and Angular) have benefits for the UX, speed, 
and code organization.





On Sun, Feb 23, 2014 at 10:35 AM, Mauro Servienti <[email protected]> wrote:
IMHO it is not superior at all, they are 2 face of the same medal, in the end 
as the application become larger and larger you end app with multiple single 
page applications generally divided by context. Dividing by context is 
acceptable because for the user it acceptable to reload everything when 
changing context.

Never, IMHO, approach a problem thinking in term of performances, use cases and 
the user mental model are much more important for the success of the 
application, performances tweaks comes after.

.m
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On 23/feb/2014, at 18:05, Arshad Nazeer <[email protected]> wrote:

How is Single Page Application superior than Multi Page Application when both 
are developed using AngularJS? In SPA complete page is  loaded at once but in 
MPA only a page that the user needs is loaded. This reduces page size and the 
page gets loaded quickly.

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