Jens-

I was not aware that ng-if removes things from the DOM when they are not 
used.  That certainly makes me wonder about whether taking another look 
might be worth it.

When there is a change in a value that Angular detects, is the ENTIRE 
page/controller/ngApp re-built or just the area of the page that would have 
an impacted change?  For example, if I'm hovering over a certain area of 
the widget, and a placeholder to the right needs to appear (and is set up 
up with ng-if), is the only change that will occur the insertion of that 
DOM element or will the entire area/page be regenerated?

I agree that pure angular often ends up much simpler and I'm already taking 
my first draft which was still manipulating a lot of HTML to make it have 
some structure with a model, etc.  If I can do the same for the placeholder 
insertion, that'd be cool too.

Thanks,
Kevin

On Tuesday, September 9, 2014 12:50:09 AM UTC-6, Jens Melgaard wrote:

> Actually you could do this by simply creating a "WidgetSocket" Directive 
> which will transclude it's widget in and just add those placeholders to 
> that using ng-if (which actually removes them from the DOM if they are not 
> used).
>
> There is probably other simple solutions which actually will let you do 
> this in a "declarative" way... Things tend to always end up being more 
> simple with pure Angular, but you need to learn to allot about directives 
> in order to get there, like directives that communicate, transclude and 
> reuse of all the directives that already exists... But IMO it's worth 
> learning, as it will save much time later on...
>
> Anyways, that is just my experience.
>
> On Sunday, September 7, 2014 8:02:10 PM UTC+2, Kevin W wrote:
>>
>> Eric-
>>
>>  
>>
>> I agree with your approach for a drag/drop treeview type solution. 
>> However, this is not that simple.  I’m building a layout manager that lets 
>> you drag & drop widgets around the page (add, move, delete, etc.).  As you 
>> are dragging, I need to insert a placeholder to shift things around to show 
>> where the drop will occur if you let go now.  This includes adding widgets 
>> above/below existing widgets, causing new columns to get created, or new 
>> rows.  So to do this ahead of time I’d have to build in a 
>> top/bottom/colright/colleft/rowtop/rowbottom element on every single 
>> widget.  That’s a lot of excess HTML rather than just injecting the 
>> placeholder where it needs to be depending on where the current dragover is 
>> occurring.
>>
>>  
>>
>> Thanks for everyone’s input!
>>
>> Kevin
>>
>>  
>>
>> *From:* [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] *On 
>> Behalf Of *Eric Eslinger
>> *Sent:* Sunday, September 7, 2014 8:49 AM
>> *To:* [email protected]
>> *Subject:* Re: [AngularJS] Re: AngularJS way of doing jQuery.before and 
>> jQuery.after
>>
>>  
>>
>> Yeah, I'm not sure where the breakpoint is between easy and hard from the 
>> framework perspective, but in a generic ng-repeat / tree directive kind of 
>> situation, I'd approach D&D by moving attributes around on a model object 
>> (reorder in the array, moving from foo.tubers to foo.vegetables and so on), 
>> and then let angular render the DOM appropriately.
>>
>>  
>>
>> OTOH, that may be over-engineering a simple enough use pattern for jQuery.
>>
>>  
>>
>> e
>>
>>  
>>
>> On Sun, Sep 7, 2014 at 3:33 AM, Jens Melgaard <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> You can still do complex drag and drop and much other using Angular, what 
>> you need is a model to describe your structure, and then just let Angular 
>> render that, it's now about making "all possible" permutations in html...
>>
>>
>>
>> On Saturday, September 6, 2014 4:58:42 AM UTC+2, Kevin W wrote:
>>
>> Eric - I realize I can use jQuery.  I was just trying to avoid it on 
>> principle (while I'm still learning angularjs).
>>
>>  
>>
>> I know for many things, having content already in the page with ng* 
>> attributes is the way to go.  However, I really am doing dynamic work here 
>> based on drag & drop so it wouldn't make sense to have all the possible 
>> permutations baked into the HTML.
>>
>>  
>>
>> I think I have decided, however, that for this complex UI manipulation, 
>> it'll make sense to just stick with jQuery within my directives.
>>
>>  
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> Kevin
>>
>>
>>
>> On Friday, September 5, 2014 11:40:30 AM UTC-6, Kevin W wrote:
>>
>> The jqlite has append but it doesn't have before and after.
>>
>>  
>>
>> Does anyone know of the appropriate way to perform these actions 
>> (before/after)?
>>
>>  
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> Kevin
>>
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