Hi Dawn,

The egghead.io folk have been doing a few videos on Angular 2 using ES5.
Definitely more template code than if you're using ES6 but it does show
that it is quite possible to write Angular 2 with ES5.

I believe those videos are for pro-subscribers only but I've found it worth
the money.


On Mon, Jul 20, 2015 at 2:08 PM, Dawn Wolthuis <dawnwolth...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> I would like some help understanding where ES6 fits in the Angular 2.0
> picture. It is not yet "perfectly clear" to me whether folks who will are
> learning Angular 1.4 today with ES5 will be compelled to learn ES6 in order
> to transition to Angular 2.0. I have heard (here, I think) that it is not
> required, but I have also seen no evidence that there will be a lot of ES5
> materials for those doing Angular 2.0 with ES5 in the future.
>
> Given that some folks moving to Angular 1.x today are highly proficient in
> other non-OO programming languages but have little to no OO experience, I
> would prefer that they could learn ES5 and keep going with that in a
> transition to Angular 2.0. I would definitely prefer that I could at least
> tell them this is likely a wise scenario. ng-1.x/ES5 -> ng-2.0/ES5 ->
> (someday maybe) ng-m.x/ES6.
>
> I am hopeful that we can decouple Angular 2.0 training and migration (in
> the future) from ES6 training and migration -- preferring to put off the
> latter indefinitely or at least until it can be expected to run in the
> browser. However, we do want the wealth of training materials available in
> videos etc from the web for our Angular 2.0 training. We would like to use
> commonly accepted approaches for this development. At this point, it seems
> that most (all?) examples have the two tied together -- the developer must
> leap from Angular 1 to Angular 2 while also jumping through OO hoops to
> adopt OO patterns (for no highly apparent reason -- perhaps it is the
> notion that after a half-century of developers writing applications without
> OO, it is now essential in any language or else that throwing everything
> into one language is better than keeping it simple?). [I might not really
> be a snarky person outside of my Angular 2.0 distrust, smiles.] With a few
> exceptions, as someone else here mentioned, ES6 solves a problem that does
> not currently trouble us. It introduces a problem that does -- lack of OO
> experience by some, not all, LOB developers.
>
> Please help me understand whether it will be wise to couple Angular 2.0
> with ES6+transpiler, rather than coding in the same language we must debug
> in within the browser. Obviously, a developer would then need to understand
> both ES6 (for the source) and generated ES5 (which will run in the browser).
>
> Please clue me in on a) whether ES6 will, for all intents and purposes, be
> required in a move to Angular 2.0 b) whether it will be more difficult,
> perhaps due to lack of materials, for a site to move from Angular 1 to 2
> without also moving from ES5 to 6 and c) whether you think that it would be
> wise to bite the bullet and do the move from Angular 1 to 2 and from ES5 to
> 6 all at the same time.
>
> Thanks.  --dawn
>
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