So, I guess you've arrived... below:
On 12/11/2016 15:51, Michael Richardson wrote:
> 
> Toerless Eckert <[email protected]> wrote:
>     > I am confused about the reason for this discussion. It seems you are
>     > trying to figure out how to minimize the impact of the insecure
>     > multicast piece of GRASP, but in the context of ANIMA this question
>     > would be irrelevant, because we are not doing any insecure GRASP in
>     > BRSKY or ACP with current draft - the use of insecure GRASP was removed
>     > in those drafts before Berlin because of the majority of the bootstrap
>     > teams choice for DNS-SD/mDNS.
> 
> In ANIMA, agreed.
> 
>     > Do you see some IoT context where you would use insecure GRASP instead
>     > of DNS-SD/mDNS, eg: in some IoT context ?
> 
> In 6tisch-secure-join, I specified a GRASP query (over TCP) between Join
> Assistant and Registrar.  It would be "secure" in the sense that it would not
> be exposed to traffic from new nodes, only existing nodes.
> 
> The time sequence diagram I envisioned was:
>    JA         Int-Nodes         Registrar
>     ---disc----->   -----disc----->
>     <-----------  TCP M_END--------  new  TCP
>     ------  QUERY ---M_REQ_NEG---->  same TCP
>     <-----  REPLY ---M_END---------  same TCP
> 
> However, I think that we will have to replace the GRASP query with something
> else, maybe just a CoAP request, as the TCP for GRASP is rather too much for
> some.. To be discussed.

I agree, GRASP is designed for autonomic nodes and I don't think we should 
promote
it for other usage at the moment.

   Brian

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