+2 (grin)

Factory reset means: back to what the factory shipped. No intermediate states.

(If there is actually a requirement for an intermediate state it can be 
developed as part of other/additional work. Such would not be called “factory 
reset” it would be something else). 

- max

> On Mar 10, 2017, at 9:06 AM, Kent Watsen <kwat...@juniper.net> wrote:
> 
> Also agree, factory reset only means one thing.
> 
> K.
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> 
> 
> I agree with Michael - only "type 2" should be termed as "factory reset".
> 
> "type 1" reads to me as: "Reset a device to its default settings, but keep it 
> in the domain it was enrolled to".
> This includes keeping the LDevID, but also other data such as the trust 
> anchor(s).
> 
> Stevie
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Anima [mailto:anima-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Michael H. Behringer
> Sent: Friday, March 10, 2017 11:45 AM
> To: anima@ietf.org
> Subject: [Anima] Factory reset: Do we need two types?
> 
> There was a discussion about the term factory reset, and what it means. 
> Specifically, whether the LDevID (domain certificate) is deleted.
> 
> The notes I have taken (from someone's mail) indicate:
>   type 1: erase all but LDevID - Device doesn’t need to re-enrol
>   type 2: erase all, including LDevID
> 
> While trying to work this into the reference draft, I'm getting less and less 
> comfortable with the sentiment of "two types of factory re-set".
> 
> Here my thinking:
> - Factory reset brings a device back to the state it had when it left the 
> factory. This is very unambiguous, and clear. The device will keep its IDevID 
> and the LDevID will be deleted. (may be worth noting in the reference draft 
> though, to be sure).
> - A process where the LDevID remains on the device in my view of the world is 
> therefore NOT a factory reset. I would call this "erase device configuration 
> except the LDevID".
> 
> I therefore suggest to use / define the term "factory reset" as per first 
> bullet above. And NOT define two types of factory reset. It just feels wrong 
> to me.
> 
> What am I missing? Why did we even need a term for the second? Can we not 
> just say "delete config, but leave LDevID"?
> 
> Michael
> 
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