Duly noted.

At this point I think we'll wait for direction from the AD. I expect
other points will come up from the IESG.

Regards
   Brian

On 03/05/2017 14:32, Martin Thomson wrote:
> You seem to have covered the other points well enough.  I won't say
> that I'm happy with the security story; I would strongly prefer that
> you at least say that unicast messages are added to TLS.
> 
> In fact, here's an idea: use TLS for unicast always and leave the
> rules about what authentication is offered and accepted to the other
> documents.  Then you only have the link-local multicast stuff in the
> clear.
> 
> On the topic of link-local multicast, you definitely want text in
> "3.5.4.5.  Rapid Mode (Discovery/Negotiation binding)" on the
> implications for security.  I would prefer that you forbid triggering
> a negotiation during a multicast discovery because it lacks any form
> of protection.
> 
> On 3 May 2017 at 11:58, Brian E Carpenter <[email protected]> wrote:
>> I must say I hadn't thought of RTT as an issue, because we tend to assume
>> that the timescale for an autonomic action will be far greater than
>> an RTT, so timeouts will be milliseconds to seconds, and RTTs within
>> the autonomic domain will be sub-millisecond in many cases.
> 
> Ahh, I always assume that machines work faster than the network, so
> the opposite really..
> 
>> Are you suggesting we should be able to reduce the timeout as well?
> 
> Can't it already do that?  I mean, it can't account for any time
> already spent waiting, but it could include the value 0, which means
> don't wait any more when you receive this (a nonsensical thing here,
> but it demonstrates that a reduction is possible).
> 

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