Alissa, "On agenda of 2018-05-24 IESG telechat" surprises me. I thought a -14 version was the next step.
I'll repeat my opinion on the reference issue, being a co-author of the reference model (draft-ietf-anima-reference-model). We never expected that to be treated as a normative reference. While it definitely provides useful background for the ACP draft, I don't see it as being required reading for a correct implementation. Regards Brian On 19/05/2018 05:08, Alissa Cooper wrote: > Hi, > > I was wondering if any response to Elwyn’s review besides Brian’s is > forthcoming and if so when the authors or shepherd expect to send it. > > Thanks, > Alissa > >> On Apr 18, 2018, at 8:50 PM, Toerless Eckert <t...@cs.fau.de> wrote: >> >> Sorry, trying to get through backlog. Took longer than expected... >> >> On Thu, Apr 19, 2018 at 01:04:53AM +0100, Elwyn Davies wrote: >>> Hi. >>> It has been about 6 weeks since responses to the review were postponed till >>> after IETF 101.... any thoughts yet? >>> Regards,Elwyn >>> >>> >>> Sent from Samsung tablet. >>> -------- Original message --------From: Elwyn Davies >>> <elw...@dial.pipex.com> Date: 02/03/2018 12:04 (GMT+00:00) To: Brian E >>> Carpenter <brian.e.carpen...@gmail.com>, gen-...@ietf.org Cc: >>> draft-ietf-anima-autonomic-control-plane....@ietf.org Subject: Re: >>> [Gen-art] Gen-art LC Review of >>> draft-ietf-anima-autonomic-control-plane-13 >>> Just taking up one point for the time being.... >>> Even if the reference model is informational, I was relying on RFC 8067, >>> s1, para 3: >>> Section 2 of [RFC3967] lists some conditions under which downrefs may >>> make sense. In addition to those, it has become common for working >>> groups to produce foundational documents (which contain important >>> information such as terminology definitions and architectural design >>> and considerations) at Informational status, and those documents are >>> often needed as normative references in the Standards Track protocol >>> documents that follow. >>> I would say that sombody implementing ACP really needs to have read and >>> understood the reference model and so I would argue:1. That it needs to be >>> normative,and2. The downref is sanctioned by the language in RFC 8067. >>> I am on holiday for a week and others are fighting the draft deadline so >>> perhaps we can postpone discussion of the other points until the draft >>> panic has subsided. >>> Cheers,Elwyn >>> Sent from Samsung tablet. >> >> -- >> --- >> t...@cs.fau.de >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Gen-art mailing list >> gen-...@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/gen-art > > _______________________________________________ > Anima mailing list > Anima@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/anima > _______________________________________________ Anima mailing list Anima@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/anima
