I would suggest that it helps in these cases to back up to the scenarios we care to address, and the likelihood of success.  In some cases, it will be possible to coordinate development with the endpoints and sometimes with the CAs.  The CAs may not be strongly motivated to standardize an out-of-band/underlay RA/CA interface**- some already have proprietary versions, and may like that with the hope of locking in the endpoints along the way.

Eliot

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