Yeah I've had this idea for a year and a half it seems.

I'm proposing we do keep the backups on the ansible control machine in a
configurable location with a number-to-keep.

When I mean remote, I pretty much mean the control machine vs a delegated
host, but that could obviously be a NFS mount.



On Thu, Jul 31, 2014 at 4:38 PM, Mike Ray <[email protected]> wrote:

> Yes I did see that it was several months ago... hooray for necro-posting.
>
> But no, I was not suggesting remote backups. Simply put, it would be nice
> if I could:
> 1) tell ansible what directory to backup files to ( our playbooks run as
> root so permissions aren't a concern for me )
> 2) tell ansible how many backup files to maintain ( at least in 1.6.2, if
> I say "backup=yes" and then run a playbook 5 times, there will be 5 backups
> (assuming the file is changed) )
>
> I'm new so it'd take me awhile, but if there are problems with vshkolin
> pull request, let me know and perhaps I can re-implement it.
>
> Mike Ray
>
>
> On Thu, Jul 31, 2014 at 3:16 PM, Michael DeHaan <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> Remote backups?
>>
>> Honestly haven't had time to attack.   I'll bump the priority though so
>> it doesn't get lost in the shuffle -- it's a good idea -- and an OLD idea :)
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Jul 31, 2014 at 4:09 PM, Mike Ray <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> What is the status of this? My team would find a feature like this
>>> immensely helpful.
>>>
>>> It would be additionally useful if you could force it to only maintain X
>>> backups in said backup directory.
>>>
>>> I see nothing in the changelogs about this.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Saturday, October 12, 2013 12:44:52 PM UTC-5, Vadim Shkolin wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I made the pull request (username: vshkolin)
>>>>
>>>> суббота, 12 октября 2013 г., 4:24:07 UTC+4 пользователь Michael DeHaan
>>>> написал:
>>>>>
>>>>> I would be interested in seeing and commenting on the pull request.
>>>>>
>>>>> We can see what it looks like and go from there.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, Oct 11, 2013 at 7:15 PM, Vadim Shkolin <[email protected]>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I think, that mostly all ansible users work as root - native or over
>>>>>> sudo. OK, path for backups can be changed.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This is not "if this were implemented". This is implemented by me :).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Old (native) backup's mechanism is unusable:
>>>>>> 1. It has potential conflict with "conf.d"-like distros
>>>>>> 2. There is data overriding when file is modified twice in one
>>>>>> playbook, for example, many "lineinfile" step-by-step. The first
>>>>>> modification will make backup with pattern %Y-%m-%d@%H:%M~, and the
>>>>>> second one will override this backup. Original file will lost, it is a 
>>>>>> BIG
>>>>>> problem for production systems!
>>>>>> I changed the pattern to %Y%m%d-%H%M%S, and added version number
>>>>>> suffix to it, if this file still exists (if step-by-step modifications 
>>>>>> will
>>>>>> be in same second).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I can push this modification into new git branch, and you can check
>>>>>> and modify it (add homedir in backup path, etc.), and merge into devel
>>>>>> branch.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> суббота, 12 октября 2013 г., 1:10:19 UTC+4 пользователь James
>>>>>> Cammarata написал:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Since tasks are run as potentially different users (none of which
>>>>>>> may have root access), creating a common directory for backups may not
>>>>>>> work. Most likely, if this were implemented, the backup directory would
>>>>>>> have to be under the user's home directory by default.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Fri, Oct 11, 2013 at 3:41 PM, Vadim Shkolin <[email protected]>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> File modules of ansible ("copy", module and some others) can do
>>>>>>>> backup of changed data. The standard naiming schema (timestamping and
>>>>>>>> adding '~' in original directory) can have bad effects in "conf.d"-like
>>>>>>>> distros.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Main idea: all backups placed into separate directory tree, based
>>>>>>>> on /var/lib/ansible.backups. 1st backup is suffixed by '.orig', 2nd and
>>>>>>>> more later are suffixed by timestamp. This schema is more reliable, 
>>>>>>>> and I
>>>>>>>> made patch for it.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> New schema example:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  /var/lib/ansible.backups/etc/zabbix
>>>>>>>>  /var/lib/ansible.backups/etc/zabbix/zabbix_agentd.conf.
>>>>>>>> 20130622-172930
>>>>>>>>  /var/lib/ansible.backups/etc/zabbix/zabbix_proxy.conf.
>>>>>>>> 20130622-172959
>>>>>>>>  /var/lib/ansible.backups/etc/zabbix/zabbix_proxy.conf.orig
>>>>>>>>  /var/lib/ansible.backups/etc/zabbix/zabbix_agentd.conf.
>>>>>>>> 20130614-033941
>>>>>>>>  /var/lib/ansible.backups/etc/zabbix/zabbix_agentd.conf.orig
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Do you interested it? If so, how can I commit this changes into
>>>>>>>> main tree?
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>>>>>>>
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