Can I ask what's intended to be different from the module we already have
in core?

http://docs.ansible.com/vsphere_guest_module.html




On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 9:27 PM, kesten broughton <
[email protected]> wrote:

> Nice work!  That's half my battle,
> the rest is attaching volumes.
>
> Does your module support that sort of thing?
> How would you extend to do that?
>
> kesten
>
>
> On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 7:18 PM, Tony Kinsley <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> I actually recently got approval to release a module I wrote to manage
>> vsphere. You can find it at https://github.com/ViaSat/ansible-vsphere
>>
>> We currently use this to manage our datacenter of test and development
>> vms. It uses pyvmomi which is VMWares python library for interacting with
>> the vsphere api.
>> It currently has support for:
>>
>>    - Create, Clone ( from templates as well ), Delete VMs
>>    - Create, Remove, and Revert to VM snapshots
>>    - Create, Remove Inventory Folders
>>    - Interact with the Guest Operations Manager.
>>
>> So in order to get support for all those different things, I came up with
>> a way to convert a "spec" object into pyvmomi objects. This allows me to
>> call roughly any function on a Managed Object Reference. I hope it is not
>> too confusing and the documentation is clear. I gave examples but there is
>> likely more that the module is capable of than the examples I gave. My hope
>> is that this module could be one day included in the core Ansible project.
>>
>> Let me know what you think.
>> Tony
>>
>> On Tuesday, August 5, 2014 1:53:03 PM UTC-7, Jamal B wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi, is there a chance that cloning will be added to the vsphere_guest
>>> module in an upcoming release?
>>>
>>> On Thursday, July 10, 2014 9:08:23 AM UTC-4, kesten broughton wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I would agree, cloning functionality belongs in vsphere_guest module if
>>>> possible.
>>>>
>>>> On Wednesday, July 9, 2014 4:30:32 PM UTC-5, Michael DeHaan wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> It seems in this case we should try to work the features into the
>>>>> existing module, since they are both about creating guests?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Jul 9, 2014 at 3:54 PM, kesten broughton <
>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I was referring to the vsphere_clone mentioned, not vsphere_guest
>>>>>> which is in trunk https://github.com/ansible/ansible/tree/devel/
>>>>>> library/cloud
>>>>>>
>>>>>> As far as i can tell, vsphere_guest currently only supports creating
>>>>>> a vm from .iso
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What i really need is creating clones from a template.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> k
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, Jul 9, 2014 at 2:47 PM, Michael DeHaan <[email protected]>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This is actually already in core.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Wed, Jul 9, 2014 at 8:11 AM, kesten broughton <
>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> If you've got a public git branch, i can help with testing and
>>>>>>>> documentation.
>>>>>>>> I've worked with pysphere a bit.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> kesten
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, July 8, 2014 6:23:06 PM UTC-5, Corey Gaffney wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> In looking at my original proposal, I think combining two unique
>>>>>>>>> implementations of Async functionality is going to be a bad idea, if 
>>>>>>>>> not
>>>>>>>>> for being difficult to troubleshoot and impossible to test, for being 
>>>>>>>>> a bad
>>>>>>>>> design.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Instead, I would like to suggest not using PySphere Async support
>>>>>>>>> and have Ansible handle Async via it's own mechanism 100%.   While it 
>>>>>>>>> will
>>>>>>>>> prevent having the ability to use Async while using with_items and
>>>>>>>>> with_nested, it would be consistent with other modules and if this 
>>>>>>>>> were to
>>>>>>>>> ever become a supported feature, no changes would be necessary for the
>>>>>>>>> cloning module.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Furthermore, when using the vSphere API for Async tasks, it has
>>>>>>>>> it's own queue and comes with it's own set of issues. Such as the 
>>>>>>>>> queue
>>>>>>>>> filling, tracking the many statuses it supports, additional network 
>>>>>>>>> calls
>>>>>>>>> to get status, implementing additional timeouts, etc.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> After I make and test this change, I will do a pull request...
>>>>>>>>> with the assumption you believe this is a cleaner implementation.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>> -Corey
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jul 8, 2014 at 5:30 PM, Michael DeHaan <[email protected]
>>>>>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Sounds like we'd be interested in taking a look at least, and a
>>>>>>>>>> PR is a good way to get that in the queue.  I will admit now the 
>>>>>>>>>> queue is
>>>>>>>>>> quite longish as we're powering through things the best we can.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I imagine if async is not used, it's a blocking operation, and
>>>>>>>>>> the async operation in ansible would be needed to use with it, and 
>>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>> might be worth noting in docs?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jul 8, 2014 at 2:34 AM, Corey Gaffney <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I have a vsphere_clone module I would like to contribute
>>>>>>>>>>> (amongst others).  My only concern is that I have added async 
>>>>>>>>>>> support to
>>>>>>>>>>> the module since this is part of PySphere functionality.  This 
>>>>>>>>>>> allows the
>>>>>>>>>>> use of a boolean to indicate asynchronous vs synchronous(the 
>>>>>>>>>>> default) in
>>>>>>>>>>> order to cooperate with loops and nested loops in Ansible (which we 
>>>>>>>>>>> all
>>>>>>>>>>> know do not support Async at this point in time).  In the spirit of 
>>>>>>>>>>> keeping
>>>>>>>>>>> the functionality of PySphere, I have kept this option available 
>>>>>>>>>>> and find
>>>>>>>>>>> it quite powerful.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Would this be acceptable, if yes.. then I will perform a pull
>>>>>>>>>>> request or whatever is necessary to contribute.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>>> Corey
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Friday, April 19, 2013 5:36:47 PM UTC-5, Michael DeHaan wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Documentation was somewhat short at the time, we're talking
>>>>>>>>>>>> about it now, it's all good :)
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Apr 19, 2013 at 6:01 PM, Dag Wieers <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 19 Apr 2013, Michael DeHaan wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>  Ok, that's good.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Out of curiosity, is kernel+initrd+commandline also possible?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I doubt vsphere can do that.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>  These may be suitable for core inclusion, the above is not a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> prereq, but it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> would be nice if it could avoid a PXE environment (in case
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> one already
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> existed and we wanted to ignore it).
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> That's why we use ISO media. It's the only common thing all
>>>>>>>>>>>>> hardware/hypervisors can do properly. (ESX, KVM, iLO, RSA, RHEV)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>  (I believe when I last asked they only did the ISO, or the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> playbooks that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> referenced them required doing ISO builds.)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> No, vsphere only did PXE because I never got the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> administrative rights on vSphere to:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>  1. change the boot order
>>>>>>>>>>>>>  2. have an NFS datastore or push images to another datastore
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> You made conclusions based only on the examples I showed using
>>>>>>>>>>>>> ISO images. And despite me mentioning that we use ISO just 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> because it makes
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the most sense in our environment. But PXE is supported for all 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> *_boot
>>>>>>>>>>>>> modules (it just isn't possible in heterogenous environments or 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> disabled by
>>>>>>>>>>>>> security in most large companies I have worked)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> If you looked at the module documentation it's clear you can
>>>>>>>>>>>>> do PXE with all of them. (media=network)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- dag wieers, [email protected], http://dag.wieers.com/
>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- dagit linux solutions, [email protected], http://dagit.net/
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