Please do not cross-post.

On Thu, Nov 13, 2014 at 12:44 PM, <[email protected]> wrote:

> Hi, this is going to be a cross post to both ansible and salt user groups.
> I've spent the last few months going through the docs for both projects and
> I know both fairly well. In both cases, the major issue I've stumbled
> against is the organization of projects. I've decided to go back to square
> one, and have set myself a task of converting some simple shell scripts I
> currently use into both ansible and salt to see which tool fits my method
> of working better. I'm looking for top level opinions on how to achieve the
> following tasks:
>
> 1 - copy across certain dotfiles to certain boxes (and template some of
> them) dependent upon the following:
>  * box OS (and version if you're feeling ambitious)
>  * box "purpose" - an arbitrary purpose defined by me - e.g. "private",
> "desktop", "router" etc. Boxes may have multiple "purposes".
> 2 - install the correct packages and start services based upon box
> "purpose". Package-name/service-name will obviously change depending on OS,
> so there will need to be a way to keep track of that.
>
> In other words there will ideally be the following dicts (though I realise
> this is not necessarily possible in practice):
> * hosts -> list of purposes
> * purpose -> list of packages
> * package -> OS-package-name
> * purpose -> list of dotfiles
>
> Remember that some of the dotfiles will need to be templated depending on
> the purpose(s) of the box, as well as the OS.
>
> I'm not asking people to do the work for me and I don't need any code,
> just an abstract overview of how you would implement this scenario
> following "best practices". The idea is to keep the configuration as neat
> and simple as possible, but also flexible enough to be easily extended. By
> "neat and simple" I mean there should preferably be no duplication of work
> (e.g. changing multiple lists in the same way to add a package). By "easily
> extended" I mean that additional functionality (such as having dotfiles for
> multiple users) should be fairly straightforward to implement and not
> involve a complete reorganisation of the config.
>
> Feel free to use the relevant jargon for the software, but I'd prefer it
> if you stuck to core functionality (no hacks/python).
>
> I'm not going to explain methods I've already looked at as it will only
> confuse the discussion, but suffice to say there are multiple ways to
> achieve the above scenario in both salt and ansible. I know how it can be
> done, I want to know the way you'd do it based upon your experience.
>
> Flamewars not appreciated. Both tools are extremely capable, but have
> different methodologies. I just want to know which fits my own way of
> thinking better.
>
> Thanks for any suggestions
>
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