Thanks all, glad i'm not on totally the wrong track :) There's plenty of buy in from the new team, it's just deciding which sequence of bites we use to eat the elephant. Agree with earlier points that the key to this is knowing when to stop (Oracle team have actually got their act together, but they're happy using Oracle-specific management and I have no intention of changing that for changes sake).
Another interesting point is there are at least 3 other CM systems in play here, all of which are doing a bit of the management roles (and yes that's as interesting as it sounds). I'm still finding servers I 'miss' because they aren't in the official inventory (I have a nasty feeling there are several official inventories >_< ). I'm also expecting some talks with architects when it comes time to start decommissioning e.g. the puppet layer; the on call teams are always the ones who see the benefit but when you start to revisit the Agreed Solution you need to be careful :) I'm wary of stepping on toes and coming across as a zealot, so I think it's time to meet up with a few teams and see who's keen to migrate first. With a bit of luck that'll get us some momentum. It's a redhat/satellite shop so the upcoming Ansible integration with Satellite is hopefully going to make this an easier sell (plus the change windows I've been putting in are waay smaller and management have started to notice that). Wish me luck, should be interesting :) On 17 June 2016 at 21:06, Mikael Sandström <[email protected]> wrote: > A slight detour from the original question but, I'm an Oracle DBA and I use > nothing but Ansible to manage my installations/configurations and I couldn't > be happier. It doesn't matter if it's a cluster (RAC) or stand alone > systems, the toolkit I wrote handles it. So, it can definitely be done. > > I recently changed jobs and I'm in the process of retro-fitting our (fairly > large) Oracle environments to be managed by Ansible. Fortunately I haven't > had much resistance yet. > > Good luck! > /M > > On Friday, June 17, 2016 at 6:27:29 PM UTC+2, Adam Morris wrote: >> >> Resistance from co-workers is a big problem... >> >> Legacy systems is another one but can be dealt with... >> >> In some cases their are other issues though... >> >> But equally it is not always possible to replace manual installations. I >> am not an Oracle DBA and in the organisation I work for the DBAs are a >> separate team. While it might be possible for me to automate Oracle >> installation and configuration, I don't know what to do, and I don't think >> that they would let me. (Heck, they don't listen when I tell them that >> asmlib is not needed, is a hack, and we should use the OS equivalent which >> is better supported) >> >> Some of our installs could be automated, but when you only install the app >> once on two machines and the vendor supplied instructions are several >> hundred pages, I am not going there. If the vendor wants to automate their >> install process then great, but in that case I am not. (The application, >> database, message bus, DNS entries, file systems, network settings, etc are >> all detailed. The application alone consists of several hundred daemons and >> has its own registry...) >> >> Finally I also have to deal with some systems which have been approved by >> a regulatory agency. Those ones cannot be changed without a lot more >> approval work. In those cases we are mostly at the mercy of the application >> vendor. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Ansible Project" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/ansible-project/b0e88495-2195-4044-891c-b17f77f0a977%40googlegroups.com. > > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ansible Project" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/ansible-project/CAK5eLPTb%2BNmJsQGTcQroa5rnDPn%2B5RuN7bb36qZysAVsFm-yiQ%40mail.gmail.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
