Hullo Piotr.

No, it's just that people very often do not post their entire playbook or
the complete output from their runs. This it often misleads responders, who
go down various dead ends before finally requesting that the OP post
*everything*, then at last the problem gets resolved. In a long thread,
this often happens more than once, as different people take and interest
and get involved.

There's no problem with long threads, I think Kai was just making the point
that with too little info from the OP, resolutions can take longer... When
some one provides only edited versions of their playbook or its output,
they are making assumptions about the location and cause of the problem
that may be unwarranted. It's very understandable - Ansible output is quite
verbose - but still mostly a bad idea.

Like you, I will often "have a go" at a question that is within my grasp,
but if a question is not one I can answer I stay silent.

Regards, K.

On Wed, Dec 5, 2018 at 9:14 AM Piotr Owcarz <[email protected]> wrote:

> Kai,
>
> What are you trying to say? Are there limits to thread lenght in this
> group?
> I recenty posted a question in another thread and noticed, that this mail
> group is seriously lacking involvment, which I totally get - people asking
> trivial questions don't deserve expert's answers, I totally get it. More
> experienced people have better things to do than answering dumb questions,
> and here I am, with an intermediate experience in Ansible. I thought, since
> Ansible is helping me, why don't I help Ansible in answering trivial
> questions? I am spending this week at a hotel, days are short, not much to
> do, why don't I educate myself and help the others? Let me know if I am
> doing anything wrong and I will stop it.
>
> Piotr
>
> wt., 4 gru 2018 o 22:44 Kai Stian Olstad <[email protected]>
> napisaƂ(a):
>
>> On Tuesday, 4 December 2018 21:48:17 CET Dimitri Yioulos wrote:
>> > Piotr,
>> >
>> > Fair enough.  And, I do appreciate you sticking with this.
>> >
>> > Output of "echo $PATH":
>> >
>> > /usr/kerberos/sbin:/usr/kerberos/bin:/usr/bin:/bin
>> >
>> > Output of "which rndc":
>> >
>> > /usr/bin/which: no rndc in
>> > (/usr/kerberos/sbin:/usr/kerberos/bin:/usr/bin:/bin)   <-- not a
>> surprise;
>> > BIND isn't installed on this machine
>>
>> rndc is usually located in /usr/sbin so you can't use which to determine
>> if it's installed since /usr/sbin in some distribution is only in root's
>> path.
>>
>>
>> The problem in this long thread you have not showed the complete command
>> you are running, neither with Ansible or manually on the command line with
>> the result.
>>
>>
>> With ansible-playbook it's preferably to have that with -vvvv and to make
>> the output easier to read the debug callback plugin.
>> Then the command will be
>> ANSIBLE_STDOUT_CALLBACK=debug ansible-playbook .........
>> Because of the missing output these thread have a tendency to be longer
>> than they could have been.
>>
>> su usually require a root password so do you use -K/--ask-become-pass on
>> the command line.
>>
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