At 09:08  16/1/01 -0500, James Cook wrote:
>I think the requirements would be:
>
>1. Supply a property system that works in a scoped manner.
+1

>2. Property values can be changed and the new property value will be
available
>to any tasks that are runtime subordinate to the current task.

+1 - unless overidden

>3. If a property value is changed by a Task, and the lifecycle of the said
Task
>ends, the property value reverts to its original value.

+1 if this occurs by default however overall I think a task should be able
place a proeprty in any upper context - most will choose top level context
or current context but some may push the value up two context levels etc
(ie Tinderbox system)

>4. Task developers should be able to declare properties that are global.

+1 see above
>I have two trees...
>
>1. A tree that holds the physical Task structure. This contains Task
instances
>and its parent-child relationships are the same as the XML file.
>
>2. A tree that gets built on the fly that functions as a stack and holds
>property values. This is the HierarchicalHashtable.

okay lets ignore 2 as all proposals have to have it in some form.

Could you submit a few more tasks (using reflection to set properties) that
are relatively simple to descibe how you see 1 as happening.

>Ant is being pulled in quite a few directions by ppl who *want* to modify
>runtime characteristics. They are doing this via the <if> tasks and the
<select>
>tasks. Also they want this functionality in the <script> task, so I think
that
>it is a no-brainer. I contend that it is better to incorporate this type of
>flexibility now, at design time, rather than shoehorning it in at a later
time.
>As you guys can atest to! :-)

I have no problem allowing functionality but I do have a problem doing it
by default. Enabling the functionality comes at a cost (high coupling,
heavier interfaces, harder to maintain backwards compatability) but as it
is not always needed - why should all task writers pay the price? It should
be pay as you play IMHO - the more functionality you use the more complex
it becomes rather than starting out complex ;)
Cheers,

Pete

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