[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 07/09/2002 12:48:14 PM:


On Tue, 9 Jul 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

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Not sure I understand what you want. Changing the <project> element name


in build.xml to use a different name you feel is more apropriate ? Are you kidding ?

No, I'm saying we need to look at what things are used for and name them appropriately. <project> has very little to do with project details, and more to do with <build> details.

Project means that it's the build project. It's not a project descriptor. The build-project, not the project-descriptor.

A number of people ( usually those who -1 the adding of scripting elements) believe ant should be more 'descriptive', and not procedural. That's why it's called <project> - it is intended to
describe the project, including how to build various components.

But what it does *NOW* has nothing to do with a project. Are you saying there should be one file to describe project information like the cvs repository, sub projects etc and that same file should contain all the build processes?

It's all about getting understood.
I would just call it <ant> and get along.
Besides, it's really easy to make <ant> and <project> both work, so we have new syntax and backward compatibility with really no effort.
How's that?


Most people only 'describe' how to build and test it, and do that
in a procedural way. That's where the need for <if>, <while>, etc comes from, and that's why ant files become ugly and hard to understand.


However many ant asks are pretty high level, and nothing prevent adding more 'descriptive' and higher level information ( using data types). Whatever is in the gump descriptor could very well be in an ant file.

Of course, the biggest focus is on describing how to build various
targets - that's what people need the most. I agree we should add
more 'descriptive'/higher level  data types under <project>, maybe
what gump uses.

Now you've gotta be kidding. Keep all the project info and all the build processes in one file?

Well, I strongly think that this ain't an Ant issue, but rather a Gump one.

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Nicola Ken Barozzi                   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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